hey y'all,

i'm making this thread just to
get some outside opinions

i just moved to LA but while i was making the move i had the opportunity to apply for a role in Portland that would include occasional travel to Seattle and Oakland

i didn't end up getting it and i'm not upset because i have some cool things going in LA

but i truly am not sure how they could have picked anybody over me after the conversation we had

thankfully, they relayed exactly why they didn't

and i certainly understand their reasoning

i just don't feel like it's the right mindset for the role

if you get some time

poke around their website
and get a vibe of what they are about

i applied for this role:

opendoor.io/jobs

(Community Recruiter)

and this is the response i received:

Hi Philo,
My sincere apologies for our lack of response. We've decided to move forward with another candidate.
I know the interview process can be grueling, so just a few thoughts on our end that might be helpful for you along the way:
It would have been great to hear more tangible, grounded specifics of your past work history. You kept it so high level that what we got from you was more personal philosophy, and less evidence of what your background is and what kinds of skills and aptitudes you can demonstrate through explaining the mundane details of past work. You essentially didn't answer our questions directly but chose your own path and spoke about something else.
We know you're still early in your career, so if you don't have a ton of work history, that's ok- you don't need to gloss over it or go abstract- you can just share the plain facts of what you've done in the past so that employers can tell that your head is in the game and that you're grounded in the realities and details of day-to-day work.

Obviously take or leave any of that feedback, but just wanted to offer some insight as to why we won't be moving the conversation forward.
We think you're an awesome person and very insightful and creative and I definitely remember how it was being early on in my career so doing you!

Best,

like i said, it's not like their points aren't sound

i just feel like

if i'm able to break down my
philosophy on why i'm the right fit

combined with my experience

how does speaking about the
mundane "tell me about a time when s***"

help you understand if i'm the right guy?

here are some excerpts from my resume:

Sales Consultant

Million Dollar Club — I was the first salesman in my location’s history to record one million
dollars in sales in one year.

Lead Program — I earned a spot in the leadership development program.

Onboarding Think Tank — I created the chapter structure for the sales onboarding handbook.

Stretch & Flex Program — I led the team that rolled out the stretching program to our corporate
office.

Reputation Management — The Executives and the Customer Experience Manager planned to
partner with a reputation management company. I researched the options and provided the
best solutions based on our needs. Once we signed the contract with the company, I took the
lead in training our call center representatives.

Most Inspiring — I would use my down time to craft emails to share amongst my team. I would
often cover stress management, the importance of keeping the customer experience in front of
our minds, and any other points that I felt would elevate and inspire the team to be at our best. I
observed a measurable impact with my emails / articles, and I quickly became known as the
store’s philosopher!

like fam

what they on?

they wanted metrics

i told them a story about me selling a million dollars in one year after meeting the CEO of the company on my first day

i'd say that's a good metric

thats a story not metrics tho

but you don't get the
result without metrics

i explained how i did it

i had to hit 700 dollars per hour

and sell 20,000 a week to do that

i said that specifically

huh? even then thats only one thing

its p obvious they wanted more metrics and a more tangible idea of what you do day to day

maybe a list of skills like some resumes sometimes have would have helped too

i mean it sounds like you get results and do a good job of selling yourself

But you might want to practice framing that in more of a a***ytics/tangible numbers way vs a story since some jobs might want tht

i know that's what they wanted

my question is why

i don't feel like that's what's important for the role

and that isn't the vibe i got in the interview either because that's what i was focusing on at first

my tone was extremely professional

and they were like

we wanna know you as a person because this role is about connecting people

so i focused on telling them stories about what i've done because if you can tell a story that means you understand

i get that

i guess i just misread the room

they wanted to hear that you can do the boring admin day to day s*** that life and work entails

having a vision is great but you gotta remember a lot of these places believe their vision is already set. They’re hiring for people to fulfill their vision not to come in with their own vision. By all means it’s a great skill to have but they wanna know that you’re gonna do the boring s*** for them first and foremost

ya that’s frustrating

i mean obviously they thought it was important.

I wouldn’t get to down on it tho, you seem like a pretty bright guy 😌

best of luck with your job search 🤝

appreciate your insight

my guy are you dumb?

they want to know how you used your skills to make those successes to make those targets

they wanted to know how you used your skills to get out of a terrible situation at work; they want you to be able to connect this with how you would work in their company

When God allows someone to close the door on you, it's because He wants you to walk down the hall and discover that there's another door that will take you somewhere far better than you could've anticipated

but isn't that obvious

boss’s nephew got the job sorry bro

Yeah man im tryna get a job too it really is hard out there

why wouldn't i do that stuff

for sure

it happened for a reason

i just am curious about other people's experiences in the workforce

so i shared my story in this instance

they did the most with that email. They should have said your lack of experience kept you from getting the job and kept it moving

my point is

if i give you clear examples
and stories of things i've done

and what i believe

how does that not achieve the same goal

i have my metrics and results listed on my resume

i work in sales

i know how to sell myself

but that wasn't what this role was about

did you read the job description?

i'm not saying the boring day to day stuff isn't important

but fam

i'm grown

if you can't tell that i'm a good employee just based on what i am even talking about

idk what to tell you

that's just how i feel

and i thought they understood that