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  • Apr 12, 2021
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    Maybe the other candidate was better than you.

    You can’t believe they picked someone else over you?

    Maybe that other person had more experience and didn’t dodge some of the questions.

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    safe

    yea I get you 100% but you just gotta keep it real cut and dry

    like if they’re looking for a sales person and they ask how does your experience make you a fit for the job

    Answer: I have a significant amount of experience in sales. My last job I came in with little sales experience but I have a high drive to succeed and to adapt to new environments which helped me to quickly learn the culture of the job and the product. I ended up becoming the first person in the business to sell over a million dollars in product. While I don’t have experience in this particular product niche I also had fairly minimal experience in that product niche but managed to excel because I’m willing to work hard and learn how to succeed regardless of the familiarity of my environment.

    Jobs never really know how legit a lot of the stuff on your resume is so you’ve gotta sell it to them at a very basic very real level. Use some stories about stuff that you did at the job to show how you’d succeed

    but to me this doesn't
    say anything more than i did

    it's just more concise

    i gave them the why
    behind all of my highlights

    to me that's MORE value

    and adds weight to what i've done

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    how?

    "if you can't tell that i'm a good employee just based on what i am even talking about idk what to tell you"

    'i truly am not sure how they could have picked anybody over me after the conversation we had"

    'but i just feel like it's not hard to tell that i'm the type of person who is willing to do what it takes not just for me to thrive
    but for the company"

    you seem to take s*** really personal. and think that because of previous success you are owed opportunities automatically. if they don't pick you they don't pick you bro. this entitled and angry attitude will only hold you back if you intend to work for other people.

  • Apr 12, 2021
    TheLostBoy

    Maybe the other candidate was better than you.

    You can’t believe they picked someone else over you?

    Maybe that other person had more experience and didn’t dodge some of the questions.

    i can't believe they picked someone
    over me given the reason that they gave

    we've established in this thread that they were looking for more concrete details

    my whole point is

    i gave them the details they needed

    but in the interview they stressed getting to know me as a person because this role is about fit

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    whippet volverse

    "if you can't tell that i'm a good employee just based on what i am even talking about idk what to tell you"

    'i truly am not sure how they could have picked anybody over me after the conversation we had"

    'but i just feel like it's not hard to tell that i'm the type of person who is willing to do what it takes not just for me to thrive
    but for the company"

    you seem to take s*** really personal. and think that because of previous success you are owed opportunities automatically. if they don't pick you they don't pick you bro. this entitled and angry attitude will only hold you back if you intend to work for other people.

    i'm not angry

    and i am not entitled

    i am simply confident in my abilities

    and i am confused when others see it differently

  • Apr 12, 2021
    Squilliam

    Bro you aren’t owed a job because you gave a good answer

    idk why you think i feel like i'm owed a job

  • safe 🪩
    Apr 12, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    but to me this doesn't
    say anything more than i did

    it's just more concise

    i gave them the why
    behind all of my highlights

    to me that's MORE value

    and adds weight to what i've done

    nah man you’re misinterpreting what these places want from you

    like sure if I was doing a start up or something I’d want someone who was creative and thoughtful and able to think like that

    But these guys want someone who’s basically gonna do a glorified resume walkthrough. Read the application and look at what they ask for: e.g We are seeking a highly driven candidate with sales experience.

    Then think about a story from your sales experience that shows you being driven while doing the exact stuff you’d do in this role. E.g achieving 1 million sales targets or coming up with some way to be more efficient. If you wanna showcase out of the box thinking showcase you doing it to be better at the role rather than doing stuff that wasn’t your role. You’re selling them on your ability to succeed at that particular role not on your ability to progress in the company or to shift the culture or etc

    Honestly though the fact that you got an interview and a response like this from them shows you made a really good impression. Just tweak your focus a bit during the interview and you’ll be set

  • Apr 12, 2021
    safe

    nah man you’re misinterpreting what these places want from you

    like sure if I was doing a start up or something I’d want someone who was creative and thoughtful and able to think like that

    But these guys want someone who’s basically gonna do a glorified resume walkthrough. Read the application and look at what they ask for: e.g We are seeking a highly driven candidate with sales experience.

    Then think about a story from your sales experience that shows you being driven while doing the exact stuff you’d do in this role. E.g achieving 1 million sales targets or coming up with some way to be more efficient. If you wanna showcase out of the box thinking showcase you doing it to be better at the role rather than doing stuff that wasn’t your role. You’re selling them on your ability to succeed at that particular role not on your ability to progress in the company or to shift the culture or etc

    Honestly though the fact that you got an interview and a response like this from them shows you made a really good impression. Just tweak your focus a bit during the interview and you’ll be set

    once again thank you
    for being of sound mind

    appreciate you

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    They need a cog man

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    i'm not angry

    and i am not entitled

    i am simply confident in my abilities

    and i am confused when others see it differently


    how does "I am confused when others see things differently than me" not equal entitled?

    it is a completely normal thing to not get hired at every job you apply to, believe it or not. maybe if you take in people's critiques of you and try to improve different aspects of yourself, you can find better results in the future

  • Apr 12, 2021
    exclave oasis

    They need a cog man

    the reason i'm not upset that i didn't get the role is because that's exactly what i was at my last gig

    and that is what makes this funny

    i don't wanna be that guy anymore

    i've got some cool s*** cooking here in LA...

    i feel like my life is just beginning for real

    appreciate you

  • Apr 12, 2021
    whippet volverse


    how does "I am confused when others see things differently than me" not equal entitled?

    it is a completely normal thing to not get hired at every job you apply to, believe it or not. maybe if you take in people's critiques of you and try to improve different aspects of yourself, you can find better results in the future

    look at what you quoted

    and look at what i said

    try again

  • Tadow 🥀
    Apr 12, 2021
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    Take the L, learn a lesson and move on. They gave you more feedback than most companies usually do in rejection emails.

  • Apr 12, 2021
    Tadow

    Take the L, learn a lesson and move on. They gave you more feedback than most companies usually do in rejection emails.

    it's not an L
    but there are
    lessons indeed

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    I feel like it comes down to values at root honestly.

    You would value an employer that would hire you off of what you said. As that would be what they valued more. It's pretty simple. Don't change what you value from your previous work experience so that it fits what a company wants to hear. That's how you get a job you don't want.

    If they want more huristic information they are going to always want that. If that isn't your vibe you are not fit for the job.

  • Apr 12, 2021

    for more context

    one of the stories i told was about working in a corporate environment as an IT Technician

    i learned how to communicate professionally at that point

    that's why i'm not going on what most of y'all are saying

    i know how i seem on here

    but in real life

    i am very concise and professional

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    exclave oasis

    I feel like it comes down to values at root honestly.

    You would value an employer that would hire you off of what you said. As that would be what they valued more. It's pretty simple. Don't change what you value from your previous work experience so that it fits what a company wants to hear. That's how you get a job you don't want.

    If they want more huristic information they are going to always want that. If that isn't your vibe you are not fit for the job.

    very well said

    i just got confused because i thought
    this company was the company for me

    based on their values

    i applied to live in one of their communities which is how i got the interview in the first place

    another point i was confused about

    not saying i'm the only
    candidate with this story

    but to me that's another data point in my favor

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    very well said

    i just got confused because i thought
    this company was the company for me

    based on their values

    i applied to live in one of their communities which is how i got the interview in the first place

    another point i was confused about

    not saying i'm the only
    candidate with this story

    but to me that's another data point in my favor

    Apparently not. All things happen for a reason.

    I just re read Peter Drucker "managing oneself" the other day. It's pretty relevant to this thread maybe give it a read. It's really short

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    exclave oasis

    Apparently not. All things happen for a reason.

    I just re read Peter Drucker "managing oneself" the other day. It's pretty relevant to this thread maybe give it a read. It's really short

    thank you for the rec

    i love books like this

    appreciate your insight

    and i wish you well

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    i just feel like you don't achieve what i've achieved without doing that stuff

    you know?

    in having a conversation with me, it's clear that i'm extremely thoughtful and methodical

    i get what you're saying

    but i just feel like it's not hard to tell that i'm the type of person who is willing to do what it takes

    not just for me to thrive

    but for the company

    here is my bio on linkedin

    Hello!

    My name is Philo Rose, and in my professional life, I am most passionate about providing the ultimate customer experience. Whether it be on the front line via sales, behind the scenes managing inventory, or somewhere in between, I have developed a well rounded perspective on what is most important to every business — consistently providing an excellent customer experience!

    Below, I have included some of the personality traits that have led me to success.

    ● Attacks The Root of Customer Pain Points
    ● Thorough & Independent
    ● Emotionally Intelligent
    ● Self Aware & Reflective
    ● Seeks Feedback & Responds Well To Coaching
    ● Inspiring Team Player
    ● Results Driven
    ● Creatively Unleashed Thinker

    Here is my mission statement:

    "My mission is to earn a position that allows me to enrich the lives of others, develop myself as a human being, and to thrive financially — I will achieve financial freedom."

    It is my hope that this summary paints an accurate picture of who I am, and leads to a fruitful relationship between us.

    I look forward to adding tremendous value to the company.

    Thank you for your time,
    Philo

    how do you not hire this guy?

    cause literally no one gives a s*** about your linkedin bio lmao

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    vickstah

    cause literally no one gives a s*** about your linkedin bio lmao

    sighs

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    sighs

    also that bio is really saying a bunch of nothing lmao. it sounds so generic

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    vickstah

    also that bio is really saying a bunch of nothing lmao. it sounds so generic

    how long you been working?

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    dam they sent you to the shadow realm

  • Apr 12, 2021
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    eversince

    dam they sent you to the shadow realm

    how?