Kanye would not be known without Jay Z I cant stress this enough

True he did save Jay Z’s career

Jay always been a snake

He never wanted ye rapping and only let him because he didn’t want ye leaving and other rappers getting his beats

People on the internet are always weird about HOV. And usually for the wrong reasons lol

Imagine still sucking HOVs d*** in 2025

They idolize the s*** outta him it’s so funny

It's so funny and I will never get it, he's a piece of s*** just like Ye

I’d say the latter half his career he helped Jay’s cool factor

WTT kinda super changed hov

Shut the f*** up cracker

Weirdo without friends quoted me

Can’t say nigga ^

Like I feel like WTT was a definite stimulus boost into hovs career at that point his last album was looked to be a disappointment. Even though I enjoyed BP3 niggas thought he fell off then and when kingdom come dropped (AG was a diddy assisted temporary breath of fresh air) but after this we got MCGH and artsy fartsy hov no socks hov imma grow my hair hov

Not debatable imo. Jay was already out of the limelight by the mid 00's. Wayne and Ye lapped him in just a few years. He used Kanye's rise to maintain relevancy for years until about the Magna Carta album. Then the public just got tired of him for good. I'd say Ye elongated Jay's "prime" or relevance for another 5 years or so--at least

He wouldn’t be known without No ID, Hov is NOT different to any of the mfs who half way didn’t want to sign him when he was a known commodity shopping his music for a deal

Is this entire thread under 25?

Kanye produced some of Jay Z's biggest songs early on, but he basically carried him the post blueprint era musically. WTT was more important for Hov than it was for Ye who was already a global superstar musically, had universally acclaimed solo albums, more commercially successful albums and singles and at that point was thought to have one of the greatest discographies ever, not even just hip hop.

Wouldn't say he saved his career, but he definitely extended Jay well beyond his shelf life.

This is it. Kanye was on such an insane run from 07-13, Jay couldn't help but latch on.

Yup Ye already released mbdtf and wtt dropped within a year after. Insane run jay jumped on. Great Collab by both of them

Kanye saved Jay Z after Jay Z had minimum 3 classic albums and multiple platinum records. Like I dont even know what niggas are saying at this point

the year prior to watch the throne, jay z had EMPIRE STATE OF MIND and DEATH OF AUTOTUNE and the year after blueprint he had the BLACK ALBUM the biggest hit of which was produced by rick rubin

Yep. They trying to rewrite history fr fr.

Who came up for the concept of DOA, quickly?!

And that wasn't even a year prior, it was 2 years prior. I love how you left our Run This Town, the biggest song off BP3 that actually won accolades. I wonder why you conveniently did that

ackshually it was 2 years ok i dont think that makes a big dif
idk the lore of who came up with DOA but kanye didnt produce it im p sure?
either way he had a huge album the year before with multiple massive hits and the year after blueprint he had a massive classic album with mutliple hits
they were great collaborators yes but kanye didnt SAVE his career dawg lol
empire state of mind is also significantly bigger than run htis town

Saved is exaggerated but that mid 2000s-2013 era of Jay-Zs career, he played a big part in keeping him in the top 5 spot

With the help of.... it's not hard to admit Ye played a huge role in BP3. There is a reason NIP is Jay's first Diamond song.