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  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Swayzomad

    Lol plucked from thin air like I said

    its literally just the logical conclusion of your original statement. So, how do landlords provide housing?

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    its literally just the logical conclusion of your original statement. So, how do landlords provide housing?

    You're reaching for the stars mate, not even close to being logical

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Swayzomad

    You're reaching for the stars mate, not even close to being logical

    Aight ur trolling, bye.

  • Jul 2, 2020
    chips

    i think "kinda trash" is a bit light on someone who induced a famine which killed 4 million people

    tankies scare is real bc im bad at arguing points

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Synopsis

    Aight ur trolling, bye.

    You putting words into my mouth to start a debate but i'm trolling

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Synopsis

    the idea that we won't ever "solve homelessness" is also false. there is a very, very easy solution for it.

    Disagree completely. It wasn't solved 100% in the USSR and that isn't meant to be a criticism of socialism, but a testament to the problem's inherent persistence.

    Government can't solve d*** addiction, domestic issues leading to child homelessness, and mental illnesses so severe reality is lost.

    You can build all the facilities you want, but people will slip through the cracks because implementation on a scale so big can never be perfect.

  • Jul 2, 2020
    Cosmic Warrior

    as long as it's not f***ed up unethical s***. being a landlord doesn't fall under that in my eyes

    also i expected better from you scratchin

    You expected a Communist to be fond of landlords?

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    its literally just the logical conclusion of your original statement. So, how do landlords provide housing?

    I mean most Americans don't make enough to outright buy a house. But some have the means to buy several proprieties and rent them to people who cant afford a mortgage payment.

  • Jul 2, 2020
    Cow

    Here is an example of his nonsense that he has been at for years over 300k+ posts:

    Whilst I do agree with the stance in this thread, he is absolutely trolling because he is bored. He is inconsistent and does not provide any arguments. You disagree with him and he will claim you are a troll and put you on ignore. If you ask him to take it to a place where the discussion might thrive, as you asked, he will tell you he wants to discuss with 'normal people'. Then he will turn around and tell you ktt is filled with imbeciles and racists.

    Damn

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    Disagree completely. It wasn't solved 100% in the USSR and that isn't meant to be a criticism of socialism, but a testament to the problem's inherent persistence.

    Government can't solve d*** addiction, domestic issues leading to child homelessness, and mental illnesses so severe reality is lost.

    You can build all the facilities you want, but people will slip through the cracks because implementation on a scale so big can never be perfect.

    It was as close to 100% solved in the USSR as it ever has been anywhere with the exception of maybe Cuba.

  • Jul 2, 2020
    Swayzomad

    You putting words into my mouth to start a debate but i'm trolling

    you said landlords provide people with housing

    im asking you to expand on why you think that is

  • Jul 2, 2020
    Scratchin Mamba

    It was as close to 100% solved in the USSR as it ever has been anywhere with the exception of maybe Cuba.

    Theres documented cases of homelessness there and I don't trust whatever soviet bureau of statistics that was putting out those numbers.

  • Jul 2, 2020
    Mel

    Disagree completely. It wasn't solved 100% in the USSR and that isn't meant to be a criticism of socialism, but a testament to the problem's inherent persistence.

    Government can't solve d*** addiction, domestic issues leading to child homelessness, and mental illnesses so severe reality is lost.

    You can build all the facilities you want, but people will slip through the cracks because implementation on a scale so big can never be perfect.

    You're not wrong here. It can of course be helped much more than where we are at now, but there will always be people who reject help. Whether it be through mental health issues, d**** etc. You can offer help, but not every person will take that help. This will always be the case.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    dotM

    I mean most Americans don't make enough to outright buy a house. But some have the means to buy several proprieties and rent them to people who cant afford a mortgage payment.

    That doesn't mean they provide people with places to live.

    they gobble up properties and then exploit a failure in the system. the housing is there regardless of if we have landlords or not.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    Disagree completely. It wasn't solved 100% in the USSR and that isn't meant to be a criticism of socialism, but a testament to the problem's inherent persistence.

    Government can't solve d*** addiction, domestic issues leading to child homelessness, and mental illnesses so severe reality is lost.

    You can build all the facilities you want, but people will slip through the cracks because implementation on a scale so big can never be perfect.

    mental illnesses don't make people homeless on their own.

    same with child homelessness. there is nothing necessitating that certain domestic issues lead to child homelessness and even then there's no reason to believe we can't solve those issues.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    I somewhat agree but fear that you’d just be substituting one form of evil ‘landlord’ with another (I.e Evil government)

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    That doesn't mean they provide people with places to live.

    they gobble up properties and then exploit a failure in the system. the housing is there regardless of if we have landlords or not.

    yes but we cant build a 250,000 house and sell it off for 30k.

    And if you sign a contract saying you will pay XXX and month in exchange for said property, then the landlord in sense is providing housing in exchange for payment. just as any bank would do.

  • Jul 2, 2020

    Mental health issues do absolutely cause homelessness. The issues lead them into d**** or the d**** lead them into mental health issues and lead to homelessness. This happens alot. It is not simply a case of building more houses or offering health care because these people can reject that help. There is not magical cure for mental health issues and addictions. It is destructive and cannot just be stopped as easy as you are suggesting. Some people will never recover from mental health issues and addiction. They will continue down a destructive path regardless of the help you offer.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    mental illnesses don't make people homeless on their own.

    same with child homelessness. there is nothing necessitating that certain domestic issues lead to child homelessness and even then there's no reason to believe we can't solve those issues.

    Yea it does my dude lmao.

    There are families everyday who stop supporting their mentally ill relatives out of the burden and eventually lose touch with them. There are cases everyday of abusive guardians/parents and broken home situations where the kid just ends up living home and never going back or is outright abandoned.

    There's a difference between helping this and completely solving it. You have a lot of faith in governement.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    dotM

    yes but we cant build a 250,000 house and sell it off for 30k.

    And if you sign a contract saying you will pay XXX and month in exchange for said property, then the landlord in sense is providing housing in exchange for payment. just as any bank would do.

    im talking about removing any sort of monied/profit motive altogether. i don't think mortages/rent, landlords etc., should be a thing. you should literally just have a house.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    Yea it does my dude lmao.

    There are families everyday who stop supporting their mentally ill relatives out of the burden and eventually lose touch with them. There are cases everyday of abusive guardians/parents and broken home situations where the kid just ends up living home and never going back or is outright abandoned.

    There's a difference between helping this and completely solving it. You have a lot of faith in governement.

    and im saying those things don't necessitate homelessness. they lead to homelessness in the current structure of our society.

    i have faith in the people and communities.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    im talking about removing any sort of monied/profit motive altogether. i don't think mortages/rent, landlords etc., should be a thing. you should literally just have a house.

    so people are just going to build houses for free? Will the government pay the workers to build the houses and the materials needed?

  • Jul 2, 2020
    Synopsis

    im talking about removing any sort of monied/profit motive altogether. i don't think mortages/rent, landlords etc., should be a thing. you should literally just have a house.

    how would water, power, Internet be supplied

    not everything can be free, there needs to be some medium of exchange for services to work, otherwise no one would be there to operate said services because no one would be making money

    no one has reason to work if money or profit isn’t a thing lol

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    and im saying those things don't necessitate homelessness. they lead to homelessness in the current structure of our society.

    i have faith in the people and communities.

    We have safety nets and a system right now both inside and outside of government in different parts of the country that are meant to combat child/general homelessness/drug addiction/and mental illness.

    They are not taken advantage of enough and have no where close to a good success rate. It's not the fault of their own either.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    and im saying those things don't necessitate homelessness. they lead to homelessness in the current structure of our society.

    i have faith in the people and communities.

    You can have faith in communities. The system can be improved so much and many lives saved from the streets. But to eradicate all homelessness like you say? No. And you claim it is easy. You fail to understand just how bad mental health issues and addictions are among the homeless. It is deeply ingrained into them. Give them a house and they will burn it down. Send them into hospital and they will fight it. The issue to taking these people off the streets would be to lock them up and force treatment on them, but they will often fall straight back into it when they get out.

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