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  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    We have safety nets and a system right now both inside and outside of government in different parts of the country that are meant to combat child/general homelessness/drug addiction/and mental illness.

    They are not taken advantage of enough and have no where close to a good success rate. It's not the fault of their own either.

    those systems are reactionary and id be willing to bet nowhere near funded enough.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    dotM

    so people are just going to build houses for free? Will the government pay the workers to build the houses and the materials needed?

    i mean at some point id like to remove the profit motive from society altogether but in the meantime yes id like to say that the people contracted to build houses will be compensated in some way that accurately reflects the great value of their labor.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Synopsis

    those systems are reactionary and id be willing to bet nowhere near funded enough.

    They don't even work on the scale they're funded at with people who try to benefit from them.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Synopsis

    i mean at some point id like to remove the profit motive from society altogether but in the meantime yes id like to say that the people contracted to build houses will be compensated in some way that accurately reflects the great value of their labor.

    then they would not be viewed as equal's then? people would grow jealous of them or would they not?

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    They don't even work on the scale they're funded at with people who try to benefit from them.

    perhaps they aren't intended to succeed? and yes this is why even so called "good elements" of capitalism are insufficient and do almost nothing to relieve the actual suffering caused by people

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Homelessness in LA/Skid row is not like homelessness in other parts of ther country. It's mainly from d*** addiction/mental illness, listen to cop whose patrolled there for years talk about whats been tried and failed.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    dotM

    then they would not be viewed as equal's then? people would grow jealous of them or would they not?

    grow jealous of who?

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jg3iacqrbA

    Homelessness in LA/Skid row is not like homelessness in other parts of ther country. It's mainly from d*** addiction/mental illness, listen to cop whose patrolled there for years talk about whats been tried and failed.

    we listening to the cops now lmaoo?

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    perhaps they aren't intended to succeed? and yes this is why even so called "good elements" of capitalism are insufficient and do almost nothing to relieve the actual suffering caused by people

    That's an unsubstantiated claim tho or rather question without a real answer.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Synopsis

    we listening to the cops now lmaoo?

    Way to have faith in something I linked and see valuable.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    That's an unsubstantiated claim tho or rather question without a real answer.

    its not like youve substantiated any of ur claims tho?

  • Jul 2, 2020
    Mel

    Way to have faith in something I linked and see valuable.

    there's no reason to trust the words of cops on anything. you can link me a different source describing the situation.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Synopsis

    At a certain scale yes

    And what if I became a landlord on order to have a source of income that will buy me time and capital to spend on good causes?

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Synopsis

    grow jealous of who?

    How would you reward the workers for building these shelters if you abolish profit? what could you offer to someone to build homes?

  • Jul 2, 2020
    Synopsis

    its not like youve substantiated any of ur claims tho?

    Not really, the empirical reality of things coincide with what I'm talking about. It would be easy to dig up various statistics about group homes, d*** rehabilitation, and whatever but we both know they are failing.

    You're saying their meant to fail, which is a lot different than what i'm saying

  • Jul 2, 2020

    ''Intended to fail'' This is lowbrow conspiracy nonsense.

    No authority wants homeless people on their streets. If there was a magical solution then they would be all over it. The trouble is it takes so much money and time to help the homeless, and it is very hard to implement it.

    No government or authority likes homeless people. Even governments who do not give a f*** about the lives of people. They do not want homeless people on their streets. It creates crime, looks bad on the community, and prevents outsiders and tourism to the area. There is no benefit for an authority to make up an imaginary scheme for homeless people they they intend to fail just so they can say they tried.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    we listening to the cops now lmaoo?

    I mean if you watch the video you also realize he's pretty much a social worker because of how LA makes their cops responsible for skids row.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    DVLPR

    And what if I became a landlord on order to have a source of income that will buy me time and capital to spend on good causes?

    find an alternative. being a landlord is unethical.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    dotM

    How would you reward the workers for building these shelters if you abolish profit? what could you offer to someone to build homes?

    homes would likely be built before the abolition of the profit motive entirely, but i don't fundamentally believe that profit is what drives humans.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    homes would likely be built before the abolition of the profit motive entirely, but i don't fundamentally believe that profit is what drives humans.

    profit drives nations not people. the more profit for a nation the better the nation becomes.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    homes would likely be built before the abolition of the profit motive entirely, but i don't fundamentally believe that profit is what drives humans.

    "profit" (remuneration) is what incentivises labour though, your comment makes no sense

    everyone would love to spend their 40 hours a week on finding their "purpose" - unfortunately this doesn't put food on the table

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    chips

    "profit" (remuneration) is what incentivises labour though, your comment makes no sense

    everyone would love to spend their 40 hours a week on finding their "purpose" - unfortunately this doesn't put food on the table

    because we've set it up that way, not because its an inherent fact of the world

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    because we've set it up that way, not because its an inherent fact of the world

    i think it is inherent that you have to provide people incentives to do productive thing A when they would rather do unproductive thing B

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    dotM

    profit drives nations not people. the more profit for a nation the better the nation becomes.

    only if that profit is distributed in a certain way. but you can still have a prosperous nation when the labor isn't based on a profit motive.

  • Jul 2, 2020
    chips

    i think it is inherent that you have to provide people incentives to do productive thing A when they would rather do unproductive thing B

    exactly this lol

    it’s that simple

    why tf would anyone work if they aren’t getting any incentive for doing it lol

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