i wonder about this. whether you can teach creativity and im not sure. However, i do think you can somewhat excercise and improve your own creative capacity. there are things you can do to be more creative. you can place constraints on your self so that you have limited tools to work with, sometimes this jumpstarts creativity. you can force yourself to go outside your comfort zone when you are making music or whatever, and this can help to be more creative. for example, if you always start with drums, start with chords or start with a bassline

if you are constantly pushing yourself to be more creative in ways like that, i think you will get "better" at being creative

Is it possible to develop the right or good “taste” in a way?

i like this idea of limiting yourself to jumpstart creativity. the blank page is notoriously intimidating for any artist. you are paralyzed by choice. getting started is hard too because you may be comparing yourself to work you admire and feeling like anything you do is inferior, but in order to create something great, you really gotta get the ball rolling

so these kinds of "tricks" to help yourself be creative are great

Creativity has much to do with experience, observation and imagination, and if any one of those key elements is missing, it doesn't work.

You know how battle rappers can spit circles around their opponents but very few can make actual good rap songs? Yeah, that.

It’s important to balance the two as well. Jacob Collier is an artist that has too much talent and too much creativity to the point where his compositions just aren’t appealing to the average ear.

Nah Collier is definitely creative especially with his use of microtonal key centers, his problem is he always ramps the s*** up to 11 to the point it’s annoying

This isn’t true at all lol I go to a conservatory and the stuff he does is not normal at all. He really stretches the limits of tonality beyond what people usually do.

Oh, really?

I’m dumb, just ignore me then lol.
Just heard it from someone else and honestly regurgitated it without a second thought

Not dumb at all fam, it’s what makes Collier such a renowned figure in that sphere, he does all the s*** that we can’t do lol

Can we understand it? Definitely

Can we replicate it? Probably not

Were on the same page fam peep my post directly above my first reply to you

if you had the reading comprehension above a toddler, you would realize this isnt really what the point of the thread is, nor is it anything that anyone is saying in here

keep it up

Artists I don’t like = uncreative

mind elaborating on what you mean by this? im interested

i got a base understanding in theory (chords, scales, keys, some vocalist knowledge etc.)

I’d say creativity is more important than raw talent as far as blowing up goes, but obviously you want as much talent to work with as possible

His big thing is he likes to take microtonal notes (for example a pitch somewhere in between G and G#) and create whole keys based around those microtones. His brain can actuallt hear those microtones and hear a full scale based on that and can create whole compositions with crazy harmonies because of it.

That’s why his music sounds so unnatural to most people because their brains physically aren’t accustomed to that kind of tuning in music. Everything is tuned to A440.

The only song I ever really listened to and enjoyed by him is his arrangement of Moon River. He starts it off in a normal key and then modulates to a microtonal key and finishes back in a normal key. It’s real subtle but if you know what you’re looking for, it’s dope as hell.

Not to say microtonal harmony is only used by him, I know King Gizzard uses it a lot and was first popularized like 100 years ago, so it’s not new at all

Missing the entire point of the thread.

I like Bieber, Bruno, and some of Charlie Puth’s songs, but they’re three artists that aren’t necessarily super creative

Hip-hop has always been competitive by nature, leading rappers and rap fans to view it moreso as a sport rather than an artform, and sports arguments are backed up by stats; the only numerical stat one can use in a music argument is sales figures

In your opinion

I think most people would agree that they’re not the most creative artists

That doesn’t mean they’re bad though

thats actually absolutely insane, wow

That's the thing! He's got an insane level of skill, and when he works with a song that's already good as a base, he can really come up with some great stuff, but when it comes to his own compositions he just ends up making a weird overstuffed soulless mess more often than not

One thing that always worried me for someone that wants to go into film is that you see all these people or YouTubers that have so much knowledge about films and theories and other mediums but yet they struggle to make a good story. Why is that?

The music kid Bieber wish he could make was not popular - he wouldn't have achieved fame

True talent is becoming a millionaire under 30