They know nothing about rap history at all and it shows.

Rap started as Party Music (Rapper's Delight is not a lyrical song at all) and then evolved to a more street and urban conscious genre around the 80s.

Technical Lyricism as we know it began becoming more popular around the 2nd half of the 80s with Kool Moe Dee, Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, Kool G Rap and others.

They don't even know that but want to talk s*** about lyricists smh.

A common acronym for "Rap" is literally Rhythm And Poetry.

You agreed with me in the previous post that one of the first starts in hip hop was party music so

Appreciate both forms

hip hop started as a meme

Yeah but hits a blunt it's block party music not house party music.

Simpler times.

Hip hop was never built on lyricism, mostly cool rhythmic vibes & catchy witty lines to dance to

It was Party & Dance music at first

That all changed when New York became the breeding ground for 1990s rap

That is true, however the argument that is always made about melodic rap is that they are "pushing the genre forward". Well, the rise of lyricism and conscious content did the same exact thing to an even bigger extent.

None of our GOATs would be here without the lyrically self aware or socio-political aspect of Rap bc Gangsta Rap was initially an extension of that form of expression until the industry b******ized it into what it is now.

Black Music has almost always had a level of consciousness as well as its ignorant side. Nobody is saying they only want lyrical s*** when they diss todays Hip Hop, they are saying that balance that had existed to a point is all gone now and its only ignorance and self defeating vibes in much of the music now without the level of craftsmanship the greats had in terms of the writing.

It's a nice bonus tho

Lyrics in op was ghostwritten

What u mean became? New York was the breeding ground for 80s rap too

It’s crazy that we’ve gotten to this point now

The new generation of lyricists

garbage thread

“Lyrical ability doesn’t matter” uses a rap song that was originally 14 mins with 10 verses to make a point

But let's not forget the "GOD MCs" where always the ones putting out "observation rap". Usually about their state of life and specifically the apocalypse.

Melle Mel
Rakim
Nas
Andre 3000
Lupe
Earl

All followed in that tradition. Whether knowingly or not.

Plus said song was bit and loved by the mainstream but hated by the ACTUAL party rockers the lyrics were stolen from

A lot of HALF HISTORY itt

A whole lot

Length= quality

King Tim III ain’t lyrical either

Quality is subjective

That’s the whole point of this thread is you’re in agreement with me then

Not at all lyrical ability definitely matters the song you attempted to use as evidence even shows you’re wrong