Mar 8, 2021·2 replies
Took my hat offTrue but we talking Tim Duncan who we all know is one of the greatest big men ever who also happens to have 5 championship rings & 2 Finals MVPs ;)
finals mvp + regular season mvp is the S class for sure.. neither harden or wade are there
Mar 8, 2021·1 replyLet me know when haren drops 35 a game while playing excellent defense in a finals series and wins the chip with his second option giving him 10 pts and 10 rebounds a game and then we will have this discussion
- Mar 8, 2021·2 repliesRosebud
Let me know when haren drops 35 a game while playing excellent defense in a finals series and wins the chip with his second option giving him 10 pts and 10 rebounds a game and then we will have this discussion
would’ve already if he played in a soft season like 06
Mar 8, 2021·3 repliesNot even taking accolades or legacy into the discussion, Wade was a great scorer AND and great defender. Harden is a better scorer, but only marginally, and is a notoriously weak defender. Yeah, Harden might be giving you an extra 4-5 ppg, but Wade more than makes up for that difference with his defense.
- Mar 8, 2021Hurry Up Mission
Not even taking accolades or legacy into the discussion, Wade was a great scorer AND and great defender. Harden is a better scorer, but only marginally, and is a notoriously weak defender. Yeah, Harden might be giving you an extra 4-5 ppg, but Wade more than makes up for that difference with his defense.
can’t ignore the playmaking which is miles ahead of wade
Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvpso are you denying that injuries are largely luck?
Some people physically are built more durable... some players take care of their bodies better than others.
Some players are physically more frail than others... some players take care of their bodies worse than others.
It's irrelevant to the point... No one is trying to assess why a player is injury prone.... Just THAT a player is injury prone... Cp3 has been injury prone for most of his career.... It is what it is... the why isn't the point.... It's not necessarily his fault, but it's a fact that needs to be taken into consideration.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyHurry Up Mission
Not even taking accolades or legacy into the discussion, Wade was a great scorer AND and great defender. Harden is a better scorer, but only marginally, and is a notoriously weak defender. Yeah, Harden might be giving you an extra 4-5 ppg, but Wade more than makes up for that difference with his defense.
Harden is better at playmaking, rebounding, and 3pt shooting too.
- Mar 8, 2021·2 repliesmvp
would’ve already if he played in a soft season like 06
The gap between the Mavericks and the heat was much bigger than the warriors and the cp3 rockets
Harden will never even come close to wade for how he played that game 7 after cp3 got hurt carrying that fraud up and down the court.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyMetaphoricalOne
Some people physically are built more durable... some players take care of their bodies better than others.
Some players are physically more frail than others... some players take care of their bodies worse than others.
It's irrelevant to the point... No one is trying to assess why a player is injury prone.... Just THAT a player is injury prone... Cp3 has been injury prone for most of his career.... It is what it is... the why isn't the point.... It's not necessarily his fault, but it's a fact that needs to be taken into consideration.
if it’s luck then a player is just as likely to get hurt as any other player on any given night and you shouldn’t factor it in to an evaluation
if it isn’t luck and the player has issues, you should
- Mar 8, 2021mvp
finals mvp + regular season mvp is the S class for sure.. neither harden or wade are there
I agree... which is why I can't put Harden over any player who has both of these all-time.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyRosebud
The gap between the Mavericks and the heat was much bigger than the warriors and the cp3 rockets
Harden will never even come close to wade for how he played that game 7 after cp3 got hurt carrying that fraud up and down the court.
you mean the same mavericks that lost to an 8 seed in round 1 the very next year?
- Mar 8, 2021mvp
would’ve already if he played in a soft season like 06
In the s***ty ass Leastern Conference where its cake to make the Finals if you're a bonafide superstar.
- Mar 8, 2021SHAQUILLE
Harden is better at playmaking, rebounding, and 3pt shooting too.
Rebounding is pretty close, Harden averages 5.4 for his career with Wade at 4.7
I won't argue the other two, Harden is definitely better.
- Mar 8, 2021Hurry Up Mission
Not even taking accolades or legacy into the discussion, Wade was a great scorer AND and great defender. Harden is a better scorer, but only marginally, and is a notoriously weak defender. Yeah, Harden might be giving you an extra 4-5 ppg, but Wade more than makes up for that difference with his defense.
This just isn't true... Harden hasn't been a bad defender for at least 5+ years now... He's actually an elite post defender and pretty solid on ball... This s*** is older than the memes at this point.
And Wade's overall offensive production or impact isn't close to Harden's... it's not even in the same ball park.
- Took my hat off 🧢Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvp
finals mvp + regular season mvp is the S class for sure.. neither harden or wade are there
You could argue that Wade could have won in 2009 but u right. I’d consider Wade on the A/S tier cusp
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyRosebud
The gap between the Mavericks and the heat was much bigger than the warriors and the cp3 rockets
Harden will never even come close to wade for how he played that game 7 after cp3 got hurt carrying that fraud up and down the court.
You must be f***ing kidding me.... That Warriors team is arguably the greatest oat and his 2nd best player went down.
That Mavs team was WHAT? You don't know ball.
- Mar 8, 2021Took my hat off
You could argue that Wade could have won in 2009 but u right. I’d consider Wade on the A/S tier cusp
he could’ve for his individual production but the team performance was too mediocre. I agree he’s on the cusp and I think harden is too.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvp
if it’s luck then a player is just as likely to get hurt as any other player on any given night and you shouldn’t factor it in to an evaluation
if it isn’t luck and the player has issues, you should
It occuring is a FACT.
Which means it must be factored into the evaluation.
The why could be a combination of the things I said, but there's no denying the fact that it happens more often to some players than others.... That can't be ignored and must be acknowledged for obvious reasons... As it plays a factor into the games played... won or lost.
- Mar 8, 2021·3 repliesMetaphoricalOne
You must be f***ing kidding me.... That Warriors team is arguably the greatest oat and his 2nd best player went down.
That Mavs team was WHAT? You don't know ball.
You’re a haren Stan so you automatically don’t know ball
That Mavericks team was better, especially when wades sidekick s*** the bed the entire finals.
Rockets with cp3 was a stacked ass team and they would’ve beat the warriors if cp3 could carry Haren one more time.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyMetaphoricalOne
It occuring is a FACT.
Which means it must be factored into the evaluation.
The why could be a combination of the things I said, but there's no denying the fact that it happens more often to some players than others.... That can't be ignored and must be acknowledged for obvious reasons... As it plays a factor into the games played... won or lost.
let’s agree to disagree, I personally don’t care unless it’s proven to be more than luck / freak injuries
- Mar 8, 2021Rosebud
You’re a haren Stan so you automatically don’t know ball
That Mavericks team was better, especially when wades sidekick s*** the bed the entire finals.
Rockets with cp3 was a stacked ass team and they would’ve beat the warriors if cp3 could carry Haren one more time.
they lost to an 8 seed as a 1 seed stop embarrassing yourself
- Mar 8, 2021·2 repliesmvp
you mean the same mavericks that lost to an 8 seed in round 1 the very next year?
yes, the same Mavericks that finished first in the league that year had a pretty huge advantage on the Heat when their second best player went from 20/10 to 10 pts a f***ing game
The warriors and the rockets roster wise were very competitive that year and it went to 7 games thanks to cp3. As we saw in game 7, haren alone is just a choking chucker. Even with 2 stars, he can’t win s***. Guy sucks
- Mar 8, 2021·2 repliesRosebud
yes, the same Mavericks that finished first in the league that year had a pretty huge advantage on the Heat when their second best player went from 20/10 to 10 pts a f***ing game
The warriors and the rockets roster wise were very competitive that year and it went to 7 games thanks to cp3. As we saw in game 7, haren alone is just a choking chucker. Even with 2 stars, he can’t win s***. Guy sucks
one mvp and an all star vs two mvps and two all stars
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvp
one mvp and an all star vs two mvps and two all stars
CP3 > an mvp then since he took that series to 7
- Mar 8, 2021Rosebud
CP3 > an mvp then since he took that series to 7
ok