Mar 8, 2021·1 reply
RosebudYou’re a haren Stan so you automatically don’t know ball
That Mavericks team was better, especially when wades sidekick s*** the bed the entire finals.
Rockets with cp3 was a stacked ass team and they would’ve beat the warriors if cp3 could carry Haren one more time.
Nigga you didn't make a single argument...
Cp3 is the one who got carried almost that whole season by Harden... And he never made a WCF prior to Harden.
The Heat and that Mavs team were far closer in terms of talent THAN the Rockets and Warriors.... ESPECIALLY without Cp3.
That's Harden against KD, Steph, Klay, Draymond,with his 2nd best player being CLint Capela after Cp3 goes down.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 reply
mvplet’s agree to disagree, I personally don’t care unless it’s proven to be more than luck / freak injuries
The "why" has nothing to do with what you're talking about though.... Especially in the context of the original point.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyRosebud
You’re a haren Stan so you automatically don’t know ball
That Mavericks team was better, especially when wades sidekick s*** the bed the entire finals.
Rockets with cp3 was a stacked ass team and they would’ve beat the warriors if cp3 could carry Haren one more time.
Mavs and Heat were pretty even as teams tbh. Mavs were the better offensive team. Heat had the better defense
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyMetaphoricalOne
The "why" has nothing to do with what you're talking about though.... Especially in the context of the original point.
does to me, we all have our own standards I don’t hold at against guys if they’re just unlucky. hayward for example, broke his ankle, broke
his hand, sprained his other ankle when he was with the Cs. it sucked he wasn’t there when we needed him to perform but I don’t hold it against him, and if I were a GM I wouldn’t factor that into my decision to offer him a contract.kemba on the other hand, I would, because it’s a degenerative knee issue.
- Mar 8, 2021·2 repliesSHAQUILLE
Mavs and Heat were pretty even as teams tbh. Mavs were the better offensive team. Heat had the better defense
I’d say they’re even if Shaq gives you 20/10
If your second best player is a shell of who he was in reg season, that’s a pretty big disadvantage for a whole series
It’s just wild how Haren is playing well those 6 games and they keep every game competitive and take it to 7 and as soon as cp3 is out, haren shooting is disastrous. Almost like he got straight carried.
- Mar 8, 2021Rosebud
yes, the same Mavericks that finished first in the league that year had a pretty huge advantage on the Heat when their second best player went from 20/10 to 10 pts a f***ing game
The warriors and the rockets roster wise were very competitive that year and it went to 7 games thanks to cp3. As we saw in game 7, haren alone is just a choking chucker. Even with 2 stars, he can’t win s***. Guy sucks
The 05-06 Mavs were not first in the league that year... they had the 3rd best record in the league.... And the talent advantage was not the same level of discrepancy.
At least Shaq played the full series and was still a load that had to be accounted for which also played a big part in the series... idk if you recall the Stackhouse ejection and suspension, but you probably don't because you're a casual who doesn't understand ball, @mvp this nigga :word:
Cp3 got injured in game 5 and was unavailable which made Harden the sole ballhandler and playmaker against a stacked squad.... The Rockets get swept in that series without Harden... You're dumb as s***.
- Mar 8, 2021mvp
one mvp and an all star vs two mvps and two all stars
And Cp3 missed the last two games
- Mar 8, 2021Rosebud
I’d say they’re even if Shaq gives you 20/10
If your second best player is a shell of who he was in reg season, that’s a pretty big disadvantage for a whole series
It’s just wild how Haren is playing well those 6 games and they keep every game competitive and take it to 7 and as soon as cp3 is out, haren shooting is disastrous. Almost like he got straight carried.
he put up about 14 and 10 that series. A dropoff sure but no like you were making it seem.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyRosebud
I’d say they’re even if Shaq gives you 20/10
If your second best player is a shell of who he was in reg season, that’s a pretty big disadvantage for a whole series
It’s just wild how Haren is playing well those 6 games and they keep every game competitive and take it to 7 and as soon as cp3 is out, haren shooting is disastrous. Almost like he got straight carried.
why do you take into account that shaq played below his standard that series but not that cp3 actually did not play the most important games lol
- Mar 8, 2021mvp
does to me, we all have our own standards I don’t hold at against guys if they’re just unlucky. hayward for example, broke his ankle, broke
his hand, sprained his other ankle when he was with the Cs. it sucked he wasn’t there when we needed him to perform but I don’t hold it against him, and if I were a GM I wouldn’t factor that into my decision to offer him a contract.kemba on the other hand, I would, because it’s a degenerative knee issue.
Except I'm not saying it's necessarily the players fault.. I was addressing it's impact on the outcome of said players series or games... Are you denying the impact? You can't be... so then that point is moot.
- Mar 8, 2021·4 repliesmvp
why do you take into account that shaq played below his standard that series but not that cp3 actually did not play the most important games lol
because it tells you that cp3 carried em
I bet if haren missed those last 2 games, there’s a stronger chance that rockets win a game with cp3 than with haren who just chucks because his playmaking is poor af compared to a real GREAT like cp3
That’s why Phoenix went from number 10 seed to the 2nd seed just cuz of cp3. Haren aint s***
- Mar 8, 2021Rosebud
because it tells you that cp3 carried em
I bet if haren missed those last 2 games, there’s a stronger chance that rockets win a game with cp3 than with haren who just chucks because his playmaking is poor af compared to a real GREAT like cp3
That’s why Phoenix went from number 10 seed to the 2nd seed just cuz of cp3. Haren aint s***
I bet if harden didn’t play the series it’s a sweep
- Mar 8, 2021Rosebud
because it tells you that cp3 carried em
I bet if haren missed those last 2 games, there’s a stronger chance that rockets win a game with cp3 than with haren who just chucks because his playmaking is poor af compared to a real GREAT like cp3
That’s why Phoenix went from number 10 seed to the 2nd seed just cuz of cp3. Haren aint s***
uhhh how’s houston doing without him?
- Mar 8, 2021Rosebud
because it tells you that cp3 carried em
I bet if haren missed those last 2 games, there’s a stronger chance that rockets win a game with cp3 than with haren who just chucks because his playmaking is poor af compared to a real GREAT like cp3
That’s why Phoenix went from number 10 seed to the 2nd seed just cuz of cp3. Haren aint s***
you know the suns would trade cp3 for harden in a literal blink of an eye right...
- Mar 8, 2021·1 reply
Same argument of who’s better Brady or Aaron. Aaron is better at everything that has to do with throwing a football, but Brady WINS way more. Harden is better at everything that has to do with putting a ball in the net, but Wade WINS
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyRosebud
because it tells you that cp3 carried em
I bet if haren missed those last 2 games, there’s a stronger chance that rockets win a game with cp3 than with haren who just chucks because his playmaking is poor af compared to a real GREAT like cp3
That’s why Phoenix went from number 10 seed to the 2nd seed just cuz of cp3. Haren aint s***
Yet... the only time Cp3 made the WCF was with Harden.... Yet Harden was statistically the best player on the team and MVP...
Yet Cp3 choked a 3-1 lead to Harden's Rockets in 2015, but he's gonna beat the Warriors without his best available scorer in the offs.
Nigga your ball IQ is ASS
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replytexasbrisket
Same argument of who’s better Brady or Aaron. Aaron is better at everything that has to do with throwing a football, but Brady WINS way more. Harden is better at everything that has to do with putting a ball in the net, but Wade WINS
Whoa there... neither of these two on that level.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyMetaphoricalOne
Whoa there... neither of these two on that level.
Well yeah obviously not, but I think there are parallels between the arguments
- Mar 8, 2021texasbrisket
Well yeah obviously not, but I think there are parallels between the arguments
Not even close... That's closer to MJ vs. LeBron type s***.
Mar 8, 2021Harden won't ever have a playoff series like 2006 in Dallas, that means something.
Not to mention Dwyane is an ATG defender, James is an above average post defender and that's about it lol- Mar 8, 2021·2 repliesMetaphoricalOne
Yet... the only time Cp3 made the WCF was with Harden.... Yet Harden was statistically the best player on the team and MVP...
Yet Cp3 choked a 3-1 lead to Harden's Rockets in 2015, but he's gonna beat the Warriors without his best available scorer in the offs.
Nigga your ball IQ is ASS
That rockets team also has by far the best cast Chris Paul has had
My ball IQ is factually higher than yours because the fact you’re a haren Stan is f***ing hilarious and a JOKE
- Mar 8, 2021Rosebud
That rockets team also has by far the best cast Chris Paul has had
My ball IQ is factually higher than yours because the fact you’re a haren Stan is f***ing hilarious and a JOKE
lol because harden was on it, cp3 had a stacked clippers team and accomplished less in the playoffs than harden.
Mar 8, 2021Harden >>>
- Mar 8, 2021Rosebud
That rockets team also has by far the best cast Chris Paul has had
My ball IQ is factually higher than yours because the fact you’re a haren Stan is f***ing hilarious and a JOKE
Because of Harden... Top to bottom the Clippers had a better roster.... Cp3 missed a lot of games his two years in Houston, but the Rockets stayed a contender because of Harden.
The fact you can't make a sound argument and I've already shown you to be wrong... with FACTS... Says it all about how low your ball IQ is.
Mar 9, 2021·1 reply
THANOSLMFAO, you watched all that basketball and understood none of what was happening
Wade the 3rd best SG all time behind MJ and Bean. facts.
Wade 06 Finals was the best finals performance ever, until James in 16. facts
Wade the best shot blocking guard ever, an elite defender during his prime. facts
Harden the better scorer/3pt shooter, maybe one of the most prolific scorers in the history of the game, but he been a turnstile on defense. factsthere's a reason (stacked) Harden-led teams sputter in the playoffs. he could never do what Wade did 06 (and if you even mention Shaq's name for that 06 run then idk what the hell you were watching). and Wade was the best player on that 2011 Miami team that lost to Dallas, especially during the Finals
sorry, but Harden can't eclipse Wade, it's too late. simple fact is Wade/Harden discourse is the ultimate litmus test to see who knows ball and who doesn't. go back, watch some more film, learn the game
You sound mad emotional. Wade had a top 5 finals performance in NBA history, facts. Right now, hes no question a top 3 SG ever. I'm saying if you compare the two players P4P, Harden is unquestionably the better player. Harden went bang for bang with the greatest team ever. Do you think Wade even wins a single game vs the 2019 warriors in Hardens position? Both put up 35 a game (comparing Wade vs Mavs and Harden vs Warriors).
Im just speaking facts, Harden impacts the game in many more ways then Wade. Hardens never been on a superteam my guy. The 2018 team was so great because.... they had the MVP of the league, something Wade has never been.