Saint Aquinas

4y

He never had a team around him, casual. Jesus christ you didnt watch 00s ball.

And no it isnt a debate.

Wade is more clutch, better defender, more efficient offensively, and a two-way player who can lead a team. Harden is a consistent choker who can only score and statpad

diplomats

4y

This dude just said Wade was more efficient, please hop off the thread

THANOS

4y

again, you watched all that ball and understood none of it.

Harden can’t “impact the game in more ways than Wade” when he is literally useless on an entire side of the court, he is a turnstile on D. Wade was an elite defender, Wade impacted both aspects of the game, not just one

and idk who made these rules on regular season MVP being more valuable than FMVP, you can create whatever little rules you want. but if you asked Harden/any player really if they’d rather have trophies or rings, they will tell you rings. so you can be happy that Harden has regular season awards wit no rings but i can guarantee you he’s not, it’s part of why he forced his way to a superteam

also, if you really watched Wade’s whole career you’d know his 09 season was MVP worthy. unfortunate that he didn’t win it, but he was deffo at that level.

“simple fact is Wade/Harden discourse is the ultimate litmus test to see who knows ball and who doesn't” - self. and boy it really is so true, y’all keep tellin on yourselves

learn the game

THANOS

4y

i'll make sure to revisit this idiotic "how much defense matters in the nba" take in a few months when BK (and ofc Harden) fails to win the chip (yet again) this year bc they defense is too s***

also, if you spell defense with a c, there's a good chance you're not american. and if that's the case, please, don't talk to me about hoops bc y'all just dont know it like we do, as evidenced by your takes itt.

put me on some game wit soccer but leave the basketball talk for the real hoopers

Saint Aquinas

4y

He shot 50% from the field multiple times. Harden struggles to shoot 47%. Harden more turnover prone as well. Stop it

mvp

4y

using fg% as your measure of efficiency in 2021?

harden has a way higher true shooting % over his career

Saint Aquinas

4y

i also included as a playmaker. there's more to offense than jumpers

mvp

4y

I mean harden has the better assist to turnover ratio by a mile

Saint Aquinas

4y

he's more ball dominant in an era suited to him lol...

mvp

4y

and? it doesn’t matter how you slice it harden is the better playmaker, the gap is too large for “era” to explain it. also wade before lebron was around was ball dominant as f***.

Saint Aquinas

4y

And? That means his numbers are inflated because the era better suits him. Wtf are you talking about

If Harden played in the 00s, he wouldnt average 11 assists in his prime. He'd average closer to what he did before Mike got there. That means the gap is explained by era. Lebron never hit 2.7 for that ratio. You not gonna sit here and claim Harden a better passer are you

mvp

4y

false narrative, harden been a plus in defensive metrics pretty much his entire career.

THANOS

4y

nerds like you always need to use trash ass a***ytics to try and talk about a game that you've never played/watched. shutup and do my taxes since its that szn, nerd

as if there isn't thousands of hours of film showing what a porous defender he is

even thats the hill you wanna die on (what a moronic take to die on), Wade is a miles better as a defender than Harden. Prime Wade was a bonafide 2 way player, Harden has never been close to that

MetaphoricalOne

4y

This take is one of someone who doesn't understand ball... Low ball IQ brain on memes

THANOS

4y

i'll make sure to revisit this idiotic "how much defense matters in the nba" take in a few months when BK (and ofc Harden) fails to win the chip (yet again) this year bc they defense is too s***

also, if you spell defense with a c, there's a good chance you're not american. and if that's the case, please, don't talk to me about hoops bc y'all just dont know it like we do, as evidenced by your takes itt.

put me on some game wit soccer but leave the basketball talk for the real hoopers

chimandown

4y

People look at statlines and think that’s the end all be all, the same people who s*** on Westbrook for stat padding triple doubles, act like Harden isn’t on the same s***, only difference is Harden can only average 8 boards max. Give me a 22/5/5 guy who’s a winner rather than a 30/8/11 guy who gets crunched in the playoffs annually.

diplomats

4y

I'm from Toronto lol. Your IQ is horrible outside ball too i see

THANOS

4y

i've never once in my life heard an actual smart person refer to iq. like have you ever heard people like keanu reeves or neil de grasse tyson or bill gates talk about it?

no, bc its only stupid people who want to appear smart, like you and candace owens, that talk about iq

bozos love exposing themselves, sit down already man

coltrup

4y

this whole "he was one game away from beating the warriors" argument is absurd lol

the warriors lost by one game to the cavs, we hold it against them because they choked. OKC lost by one game to the warriors, we hold it against them because they choked.

the rules don't magically change for harden. there is zero excuse for 0-27 on 3s. in general, he tends to underperform when it really starts to matter.

like forget about 2018, his inability to close the 2019 series was what really spoke volumes to me. KD out, CP3 in ... what happened?

Saint Aquinas

4y

Harden not even better than tmac, let alone wade

Saint Aquinas

4y

He shot 50% from the field multiple times. Harden struggles to shoot 47%. Harden more turnover prone as well. Stop it

NomorepartiesinTO

4y

Its the reverse bud. Word to your avi. Wade a better all around player. The best shot blocking sg. You kids dont know anything past 2018.

THANOS

4y

i've never once in my life heard an actual smart person refer to iq. like have you ever heard people like keanu reeves or neil de grasse tyson or bill gates talk about it?

no, bc its only stupid people who want to appear smart, like you and candace owens, that talk about iq

bozos love exposing themselves, sit down already man

MetaphoricalOne

4y

Thanks for exposing your ball IQ early... and I watched more TMac than you by far.

Dumbass casual muthafucka

MetaphoricalOne

4y

You have low ball IQ... raw FG% doesn't determine efficiency in ball... you don't know this because you're an idiot.