Mar 8, 2021·2 replies
MetaphoricalOneWade's career is over.
An NBA MVP ranks higher than a FMVP as far as individual accolades go... Harden is gonna match him in all nba selections this year and get another assist title... He's also led the NBA in more categories than any player in NBA history.
Harden gets one ship it won't even be an argument as he's still firmly in his prime and will continue to get more selections.
I got a question... do you rank Dirk over Wade?
A regular season MVP surely does not rank higher than a NBA Finals MVP. Each of those awards are team based in their own right as 99% of the regular season MVP winners had great team records throughout the regular season (Russell Westbrook is the exception not the rule)
Winning & impact are the most important measures when it comes to determining a players value. Wade has gotten it done several times and Harden hasn’t. Simple as that
Maybe Harden will get there eventually but he’s not there yet. Regular season stats & what ifs don’t put him ahead of one of the best two way guards of all time
- Mar 8, 2021
As far as Dirk vs Wade... it’s hard to compare those two. But they are likely close on the all time list
- Mar 8, 2021
MrIndigo96well he should have a ring this year. there's no excuses if he doesn't win one in these next two years.
I agree.... Unless there's injury.
- Mar 8, 2021
GangstaliciousSo anyone who disagrees with your expert watching opinion means they don't know the game lmao aight. Again get off your high horse
If you disagree... make a sound argument with facts.
keevski 🤯Mar 8, 2021·1 reply
Mar 8, 2021·1 replyMetaphoricalOneumm huh... nigga that's exactly what it means
for stupid mfs, if a mf break his hand then break his ankle later how are those related dr. dumbass?
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replykeevski
carried by bron
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyTook my hat off
A regular season MVP surely does not rank higher than a NBA Finals MVP. Each of those awards are team based in their own right as 99% of the regular season MVP winners had great team records throughout the regular season (Russell Westbrook is the exception not the rule)
Winning & impact are the most important measures when it comes to determining a players value. Wade has gotten it done several times and Harden hasn’t. Simple as that
Maybe Harden will get there eventually but he’s not there yet. Regular season stats & what ifs don’t put him ahead of one of the best two way guards of all time
a regular season mvp is a greater accomplishment than a finals mvp
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvp
a regular season mvp is a greater accomplishment than a finals mvp
I disagree
Being an MVP when it matters most is more important to me than playing well when it doesn’t mean much outside of seeding. However, obviously the greats should be playing at that level no matter the time of year
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyTook my hat off
I disagree
Being an MVP when it matters most is more important to me than playing well when it doesn’t mean much outside of seeding. However, obviously the greats should be playing at that level no matter the time of year
I mean paul pierce is a finals mvp, and we both know he’s not on anyone who wins regular season mvp’s level. I say this as a celtics fan.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 reply
andre iguodala was a finals mvp for crying out loud how is it an equivalent accolade to MVP
- keevski 🤯Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvp
carried by bron
the 1st chip as well?
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THANOSLMFAO, you watched all that basketball and understood none of what was happening
Wade the 3rd best SG all time behind MJ and Bean. facts.
Wade 06 Finals was the best finals performance ever, until James in 16. facts
Wade the best shot blocking guard ever, an elite defender during his prime. facts
Harden the better scorer/3pt shooter, maybe one of the most prolific scorers in the history of the game, but he been a turnstile on defense. factsthere's a reason (stacked) Harden-led teams sputter in the playoffs. he could never do what Wade did 06 (and if you even mention Shaq's name for that 06 run then idk what the hell you were watching). and Wade was the best player on that 2011 Miami team that lost to Dallas, especially during the Finals
sorry, but Harden can't eclipse Wade, it's too late. simple fact is Wade/Harden discourse is the ultimate litmus test to see who knows ball and who doesn't. go back, watch some more film, learn the game
Hell no... Wade's 06 Finals was the most prolific FT shooting Finals ever... That's about it.
Wade the best shot blocking guard ever, an elite defender during his prime... Ok that's one fact.
Harden is far and away the better offensive player.... Scoring, shooting, playmaking, etc... It's not even close and that includes playoffs.
Harden has led the league in more categories than any player in NBA History.
Only player to at some point lead the league in...
Points
Assists
FTs made
FTs attempted
3PTs
StealsHarden has never had a "stacked" team... Wade has.... Harden usually led his teams further than their predicted expectation and overachieved with less relative talent to his competition.
Your ball IQ is LACKING
- Mar 8, 2021keevski
the 1st chip as well?
nah, 2/3. he won the first one as a top dawg
- Mar 8, 2021·2 repliesTHANOS
0 rings, 1 finals appearance (as a BENCH player/6man)
Rockets missed 27 straight threes in a game 7 at HOME to choke away a 3-2 lead in the WCF over GS
yea bro, such a better resume than Wade
Harden can count all those mickey mouse regular season "accolades" or whatever he wants, we only count ringzzzzzz on this side, sit down lil boy
The Warriors were a greater team than any Wade faced in the offs in his career.... Harden lost to them in 7 games with his 2nd best player out.... Arguably the best team oat... A team that no other player was able to beat or even come as close.
Step your ball IQ up.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvp
I mean paul pierce is a finals mvp, and we both know he’s not on anyone who wins regular season mvp’s level. I say this as a celtics fan.
While Paul Pierce is not regarded as one of the elites he’s still likely in the top 50 players of all time
- Mar 8, 2021·2 repliesmvp
andre iguodala was a finals mvp for crying out loud how is it an equivalent accolade to MVP
Andre absolutely killed it in those finals and played well WHEN IT MATTERED MOST
And i love how you are pointing out outliers like there are more than a handful of examples. The majority of NBA Finals MVP’s in history are legendary players who are likely in the top 50 players of all time
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyTook my hat off
While Paul Pierce is not regarded as one of the elites he’s still likely in the top 50 players of all time
it doesn’t matter you know he’s not an mvp caliber player
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyTook my hat off
Andre absolutely killed it in those finals and played well WHEN IT MATTERED MOST
And i love how you are pointing out outliers like there are more than a handful of examples. The majority of NBA Finals MVP’s in history are legendary players who are likely in the top 50 players of all time
there are no outliers with actual MVP winners
- Mar 8, 2021Took my hat off
Andre absolutely killed it in those finals and played well WHEN IT MATTERED MOST
And i love how you are pointing out outliers like there are more than a handful of examples. The majority of NBA Finals MVP’s in history are legendary players who are likely in the top 50 players of all time
I don’t care what he did he’s a role player and his finals mvp is not equivalent or more impressive than a real mvp
- Mar 8, 2021MetaphoricalOne
The Warriors were a greater team than any Wade faced in the offs in his career.... Harden lost to them in 7 games with his 2nd best player out.... Arguably the best team oat... A team that no other player was able to beat or even come as close.
Step your ball IQ up.
not even arguable honestly no team is better than the 2017 warriors
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replyTook my hat off
A regular season MVP surely does not rank higher than a NBA Finals MVP. Each of those awards are team based in their own right as 99% of the regular season MVP winners had great team records throughout the regular season (Russell Westbrook is the exception not the rule)
Winning & impact are the most important measures when it comes to determining a players value. Wade has gotten it done several times and Harden hasn’t. Simple as that
Maybe Harden will get there eventually but he’s not there yet. Regular season stats & what ifs don’t put him ahead of one of the best two way guards of all time
Its harder to earn NBA MVP... Finals MVP all you have to do is string a good performance together in 4-7 games ala Iguodala in 2015, Kawhi in 2014, Tony Parker in 2007, Billups in 2004, Cedric Maxwell, I can go on and on.... Role players have won it and lower level stars... Only superstars have won MVP... And you'll never have someone at the level of 2014 Kawhi or 2015 Iguodala win an MVP.
The actual MVP is always gonna be the most prestigious award in the NBA and it's not even close.
A regular season MVP is more indicative of league standing. Everyone who wins the award is a superstar.
A finals MVP is much more dependent on favorable circumstances not necessarily related to how good a player is relative to peers.
Harden led teams have consistently won more games year after year than Wade led teams.... It's not close... Harden also has the statistical edge in regular season AND playoffs...
One ship and it's not even a conversation.
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvp
there are no outliers with actual MVP winners
Only because they are doing it for longer stretches of time over a regular season...again a time period of basketball that doesn’t really matter in terms of winning lol
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvp
it doesn’t matter you know he’s not an mvp caliber player
Paul Pierce was certainly one of the better players in the league in the early 2000s
- Mar 8, 2021·1 replymvp
for stupid mfs, if a mf break his hand then break his ankle later how are those related dr. dumbass?
You're confusing "chronic" injuries with being injury prone.... Cp3 has been injury prone throughout most of his career.... He hasn't had a lot of chronic injuries though.