JULIAN

4y

you're a moron the writer and director of the movie is a black muslin woman she's writing about her own personal experiences

this is isn't a big political blockbuster , this was an indie film that Netflix picked up because it had great reviews at festivals

yall are ignorant as f*** sometimes, go watch transformers moron and jerk to little girls doing tiktoks while you're saying that this movie is wrong

rwina sawayama

4y

mf gonna tell me, a muslim, while hes a white man, that im being too sensitive when the only islam i see in movies is pushing the same islamophobic narrative lets make all movies about white people be about them being kkk members

Ultima

4y

Yep, and people have to stop pretending that women can't be pedophiles.

JULIAN

4y

bro , that's victim mentality

the Catholic Church is portrayed in a negative way multiple times

no religion is perfect

have you seen "the two popes" or "spotlight" ? it shows the catholics in an awful light, those movies truly depict pedophilia

and they were both huge

every culture and religion is flawed , I didn't find the movie islamophobic in any way

sorry if my comment disrespected you in any form , but this happens with every religion

Aight

4y

Oh sorry I didn’t know it was a black “muslim” woman who made this film with cp in it. This makes it totally fine my bad

JULIAN

4y

the movie is great

its a dark social commentary about society, social media, religion values and patriarchy

the movie makes you feel uncomfortable on purpose , you should be weirded out and think its wrong because it is , people should look at this and understand what they're doing to young kids

don't condemn the movie, condemn the society that made this movie a reality and necessary

Smacked Voodoo

4y

You can literally Google a synopsis. It's not hard. The movie is not as profound as y'all tryna make it out to be. It's based on a very basic trope that is present in the coming of age genre where a young girl is the man character of a film/show/book/etc. It's taken to an extreme however, and the extreme is proudly displaying prepubescent girls in some sort of dance/twerk competition.

Why y'all think we actually need to watch this s*** to properly understand it as if it is hard to I do not know. But I'm pretty good on having to watch 10-12 year olds dressed up in an exposing manner to understand that young girls are sexualized and pressured into being sexually appealing at young ages. Y'all can have that.

Like if that's the message cool. No f***ing s***. But cool. You're naive if you don't think pedos are gonna have a field day jerking off to it and completely ignoring its implicit meaning though.

rwina sawayama

4y

i fully agree with what ur saying, but u dont seem to get my point Julian

my problem is that everytime islam is portrayed in movies its a critique, every single time, while i and hundreds of millions of muslims would disagree with islam being a bad thing

a movie that portrays islam in a positive light would never get greenlit lmao

SUPER RED

5y

Look at this disgusting review on IMBD

JULIAN

4y

I don't know a movie that portrays the Catholic Church in a positive way too that isn't propaganda fam

but I see you have a completely different take on religion than me, so I won't keep this conversation not to offend you

JULIAN

4y

I don't know a movie that portrays the Catholic Church in a positive way too that isn't propaganda fam

but I see you have a completely different take on religion than me, so I won't keep this conversation not to offend you

Swz3000

4y

the point is tho that you can add all of those elements to your film without making it gratuitous.

I mentioned the film Irreversible in the thread earlier (spoiler alert ahead). I think it's a great film which has loads going for it, in terms of the unusual narrative structure, the acting the debate it provokes, soundtrack, visuals etc etc

The centrepiece of the film is violent sexual and physical assault. The assault needs to take place for the narrative of the film, but the actual scene in which it takes place is an incredibly graphic, brutal depiction of the assault which lasts for ten minutes.

It's absolutely gratuitous, and adds nothing to the plot that a much shorter, less detailed scene (or even no scene at all and just an allusion to the assault) would have achieved. The only intention of that scene is to shock the audience, and inevitably it got a similar reaction to Cuties.

I don't see why the makers and marketers of Cuties couldn't have explored the same themes without adding in content that was clearly going to rile people up and detract from any message they were intending to convey

Swz3000

4y

the point is tho that you can add all of those elements to your film without making it gratuitous.

I mentioned the film Irreversible in the thread earlier (spoiler alert ahead). I think it's a great film which has loads going for it, in terms of the unusual narrative structure, the acting the debate it provokes, soundtrack, visuals etc etc

The centrepiece of the film is violent sexual and physical assault. The assault needs to take place for the narrative of the film, but the actual scene in which it takes place is an incredibly graphic, brutal depiction of the assault which lasts for ten minutes.

It's absolutely gratuitous, and adds nothing to the plot that a much shorter, less detailed scene (or even no scene at all and just an allusion to the assault) would have achieved. The only intention of that scene is to shock the audience, and inevitably it got a similar reaction to Cuties.

I don't see why the makers and marketers of Cuties couldn't have explored the same themes without adding in content that was clearly going to rile people up and detract from any message they were intending to convey

rwina sawayama

4y

hundreds of movies where the christian is just a christian, not necessarily positive nor negative, just praying in the church for a scene or some s***

muslims are just humans like that

Aight

4y

You don’t see the difference between Monica Belluci being fake raped and actual 11 year olds being heavily sexualised?

theDonandOnly

4y

maybe not in your country but in my country the media goes after muslims constantly more than any other religion to the point it's not even close

You Disappoint Me

4y

so i'm like ok lemme see if this is really bad as it is, i skipped through most of it on netflix and that s*** got the 11 year old twerking?????? WHAT man if i had kids around that age this is the last film i would ever want them to see, who is the target audience for this?

JULIAN

4y

in my country its the same, when there was the refugee crisis people were being so disgusting and mean to muslims it was scary , back then I lived in in the middle of the asian and nepalese part of my town and the tension was scary

I didn't feel this movie was islamophobic in any way tho , the way that muslims were portrayed was the same if catholics would be portrayed if the filmmaker came from a catholic family

It felt more of a disconnect between generations and values than anything

Swz3000

4y

that's not what i said and ultimately irrelevant to the point i was making

theDonandOnly

4y

i don't feel like watching this move if it's as bad as people are saying so idk. it sounds gross, can't judge without watching but i don't think i want to

i thought you were saying muslims are treated the same in their depiction as other religions, which i don't think is true. but i get it if you just meant this film

JULIAN

4y

religions are mostly treated like s*** in movies

muslims specially because filmmakers who write about muslims usually stereotype them because they don't know s*** about what they are talking about and write with prejudice , so I agree with you

JULIAN

4y

I agree with you to a degree

I actually met gaspar noé and was more impressed by his filmmaking before I met him than after

he gave us a class in a movie festival and he talked about his movie "Love"and how he "showed a close up shot of his cock" just to provoke people , it was nothing deep he just wanted to shock and I found that boring and stupid

but in this movie I feel like they want you to have those terrible images in your head, so you think about how absurd and disgusting they are, if they weren't so in your face I dont know if they would have the desired effect and reaction, this would be just an indie movie that nobody would talk about or see

we're meant to be shocked and think , so I agree with how the director shocked us on purpose