of course, Hollywood is f***ing trash ... they're a little bit more respectful now but before it was chaos

talking about the movie, I saw the movie because the critic reviews of the movie say its really really good

the movie is good, it made me feel uncomfortable as f*** at times, but that's the purpose of it, to make you think how wrong everything is

Christianity is the religion of the west in case you forgot;its the religion that got pushed on all colonies of western countries... It has power and is the standard in the West.
It's the religion that pushed the idea that jesus got killed by jews which spiraled into anti-jew sentiments that never left europe or society as a whole...it has power and is the standard in the West.

You can't conflate the power the church (roman catholic) with the Muslim minority in the West that is used a scapegoat alongside immigrants and jews...
Christians despite the criticism that the church faces aren't used as scapegoats for everything that's wrong with society, every economic crisis.
Christians aren't portrayed as a threat or a plague... Idk how to explain this better...

Did you actually read my post at all, or did you just see the mention of Irreversible and jump in to have an argument?

Ion think you can correctly criticize or judge a movie by skipping through most of it. The clip that is circulating on Twitter is ironically the part where the girl has an epiphany and realizes that the dancing isn’t what she wants to do.

the movie wasn't made for an American audience or Netflix in mind , it was a small indie French film that would go to some festivals and the crowd that went to see it would be prepared for what they were about to see

Netflix f***ed up big time releasing it worldwide , and they f***ed up even more with that poster

Man, Imagine if Lolita was made in today's era, phew, thread be flying. And that's considered a critical piece of literature

bro, I agree with you completely

I saw how my country reacted to muslims when the refugee crisis happened ( and funny thing a lot of the refugees were christians )

the reaction was "they're gonna bomb us all , let them die or lets kill them ourselves " f***ing scary times , people are morons with cultures they dont understand

ÏIt's specifically those images which are detracting from anything else in the film, and this really seems like a reaction which could have been anticipated.

Exactly why I don't gaf about "shocking art"... It distracts from the artists message and Idk if they are doing that s*** on purpose (shock factor bait) or if they just so happens to be shocking...
It's weak either way when they're artists who get the same points across without the attention whoring
Maybe it's a preference of mine too, idk...

All I think right now is mgs2, and how we can't process information, so rather than tell us about a movie called cuties so we can watch let's release a photo of them in a very sexualized matter, to create context and quickly move forward, as if understanding it without wasting time and create an outrage without needing the movie.

S*** is concerning

What is mgs2?

Metal gear solid 2 but what they talked about in that game doesn’t apply here I’ll tell you that lmao

What if I told you the picture is very tame compared to the actual content of the film?

no one should be defending this

While true, it does tell us how Netflix wanted us to see the movie, considering the many posters they had for the film and how they wanted to present the USA this movie blindly. And look what they did and how we are almost unable to watch this without already feeling some sort of way. Not to say the feeling is wrong because it’s made to be uncomfortable and the topics are absurd with real life children, but I wonder how the reaction would be if it were blind?

The video I’m talking about is this. As the guy said, it isn’t directly applied here, but it just makes me think how Netflix USA set up this discussion off of one photo.

youtu.be/jIYBod0ge3Y

What if I told you, if the movie’s job was to make a statement by not avoiding reality and showing it how it is, it might make us want to see what the hell are we doing now.

But feel free to call me a pedo, I’ll wait.

Could this have been accomplished without using children?

You really misinterpreted that video lol. The AI wanted people to focus on news that actually matters and not on fake celebrity BS like this movie

Would the impact be the same without children?

It isn’t, because the AI is the one controlling this information straight out of the pentagon. Easily now, media can report what they want and pick a side and people will be able to handle it because it’s formatted nicely, even if it might not be factually correct.

This thread is the perfect example of people unable to really make sense without picking a side and condemning the other and not trying to understand one another. But I’m the bad guy here if I even try to rationalize this movie.

No. It would most definitely have a more positive impact compared to the negative one we are seeing now.

Let me ask you this. Rape is a real and bad thing that happens everyday and is need of awareness. Do you think that it would be appropriate to have a real rape scene in a film that is supposed to be anti rape?

If it were up to the AI this movie wouldn’t take any focus away from the real issues at hand but I agree with this movie being a perfect example of people being outraged at something that really doesn’t compare to the bigger issues we face as human beings.

By having a piece of fiction, you can imply rape with or without the actual scene but that just ruins the experience for viewers because it needs to have weight and a purpose. We know it’s wrong by community And society. Hell, the book Speak was made into a film, as an fYI.

But is it wrong to emulate what is wanted by society, despite the fact there’s no true concept of an age barrier? Or knowing when something can be done and when it can’t when everyone is trying ti fit in? And Society doesn’t try to correct itself?

IF the movie’s purpose was to spark a discussion on the sexualization of children, then it would have worked, but people are taking the side that it’s made for pedos and ruins the message, let alone on the same platform we were suppose to be critiquing.

Even if this movie was animated, the impact isn’t the same without it being Real.

I don't think this is a new thing tho. The debate about "shock factor" in art has been going on for a very long time, and arguments involving morality have rarely ever been balanced

if the movie didn't have children and wasn't so uncomfortable nobody would know this movie existed