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  • hot pancakes 🥞
    Dec 14, 2021
    The Darkest Angel

    I blame rappers like Lil Uzi and Lil Pump or X who have said they're not rappers but just use the culture for themselves. These new school rappers take what they want from hip-hop and then credit it to a predominantly "white" genre like rock (actually a black founded genre) or emo (also a trend coming from black roots) it's all part of the whitewashing centuries in the making. Rap is next on the hit list

    that is not entirely true. black originated music was a huge, integral part of the formation of rock and roll, but it actually has influences from many cultures, not just one

    Contributions came from America's black population, with an ancient heritage of oral storytelling through music of African origin, usually with strong rhythmic elements, with frequent use of "blue notes" and often using a "call and response" vocal pattern. African music was modified through the experience of slavery, and through contact with white musical styles such as the folk ballad, and instruments, such as the Spanish guitar.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_rock_and_roll

  • Dec 14, 2021

    This site is sooooooo bad man why do i keep using it

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    provider

    wait delete this because you'd lowkey be contradicting yourself. that's the whole point being made. if rapping is an art, then why can't they refer to themselves as artists

    No referring to yourself as a rapper is already implied as being an artist

    Separating the 2 means you think rappers and artists aren't one in the same

  • spongebob 🪼
    Dec 14, 2021
    Classique

    not all these dudes artists

    i end up feeling a little snobbish when people who don't play instruments call themselves musicians cause it sounds good its like what u be playing

  • Dec 14, 2021
    DEL634

    OP is the antithesis of "You're not that guy, pal". He IS that guy. Quite a turnaround from the reception he received on his previous account. Rebrand successful.

    please stfu and don't ruin peaceful harmony for us
    thank u

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    hot pancakes

    idk if we are listening to the same radio then lol. in order for it to go 3x platinum it needed to be played everywhere, and it was

    if a radio station is playing adele and taylor swift, best believe beyoncé is in regular rotation as well

    she’s pretty much the biggest female pop star if we are talking spanning decades. all races love her

    You are purely being speculative saying things have to be a certain way because you think they do. You don’t need every radio station to play you in order to go platinum, you can get that being played regularly on the black stations.

    if you make a list of the 10 singles Adele, Taylor Swift, and Beyoncé released last decade it’s very easy to find that the ones from the white artists get played on white pop stations and Beyoncé doesn’t. Beyoncé and Drake do not get white pop radio play. Mariah Carey had songs she couldn’t have rappers on because the radio stations would tell her that they would not play rap.

  • spongebob 🪼
    Dec 14, 2021
    The Darkest Angel

    What color are they wearing

    I rest my case

  • "I am a rapper" = I am an artist

    Is different than "I'm not a rapper I'm an artist" (making a correction)

  • Dec 14, 2021
    Classique

    not all these dudes artists

    if you sat at your laptop and opened up garage band and laid some vocals and a track, you were an artist for the day. you created something.

  • spongebob 🪼
    Dec 14, 2021
    DonutHole

    no, they just insecure bout that s***
    u can call urself an artist or whatever, they still treat us like a nword

    actually pathetic to give in to that mentality if u'd ask me

    these rappers are in a culture (hip hop) that made the nword a "term of endearment" and y'all defending them now acting like being called rapper is bad???????? s*** is funny asl if u think about it

    just my 2 cents tho

    yeah i like when people are proud of rapping ability and being a rapper itself unashamedly that s***s fire

  • Dec 14, 2021
    afterimage

    What’s the difference between an artist and a rapper or singer

    hint: nothing!

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    internet buddy

    I would say “R&B” does that more because it goes into the deeply racist history of why “pop music” was created to sell black music to non-black people. Usher is R&B but Timberlake is pop

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_record

    @giorno_giovanna stealing my posts

  • afterimage

    It’s not their fault entirely it’s the stigma society had placed on the term

    F*** them crackers

    Rap is art and there is nothing to be ashamed of in being a rapper

  • Dec 14, 2021
    afterimage

    Bro cmon I love X but he got y’all fooled with those 2 minute iPhone recordings over a guitar beat

    Oh I literally said I wasn't familiar man I wasn't a fan. I thought he was doing some different s***

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    internet buddy

    @giorno_giovanna stealing my posts

    my bad i wws just trying to reinforce that point since we were already talking, my fault

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    RESIGNED

    my bad i wws just trying to reinforce that point since we were already talking, my fault

    I’m kidding
    It’s not that serious

  • Dec 14, 2021
    internet buddy

    I’m kidding
    It’s not that serious

    Love

  • Dec 14, 2021

    @op saying this as a jpegmafia stan is hilarious to me

  • Dec 14, 2021
    afterimage

    It’s not their fault entirely it’s the stigma society had placed on the term

    Jesus, what “stigma”?

  • Dec 14, 2021
    The Darkest Angel

    No referring to yourself as a rapper is already implied as being an artist

    Separating the 2 means you think rappers and artists aren't one in the same

    No, I believe that's what YOU (and others) draw from those individuals separating the two. Those are the presumptions you're putting onto those people. I still haven't received a strong enough example of a rapper stating the contrary:

  • hot pancakes 🥞
    Dec 14, 2021
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    internet buddy

    You are purely being speculative saying things have to be a certain way because you think they do. You don’t need every radio station to play you in order to go platinum, you can get that being played regularly on the black stations.

    if you make a list of the 10 singles Adele, Taylor Swift, and Beyoncé released last decade it’s very easy to find that the ones from the white artists get played on white pop stations and Beyoncé doesn’t. Beyoncé and Drake do not get white pop radio play. Mariah Carey had songs she couldn’t have rappers on because the radio stations would tell her that they would not play rap.

    then we are both being speculative because you are doing the same thing as me but from an opposite point of view

    i don’t know if drake is the best example here, considering he’s one of the biggest musical acts in the world and most certainly has play everywhere

    as far as mariah carey goes, i don’t know about that because i never heard that before, but i wouldn’t say i’d be surprised if she was told that, because back when she was really popping rap was definitely looked down on by executives / pop radio.

    my whole point is in todays day and age, there is a not a world where beyoncé isn’t bigger than adele or taylor swift on pop radio

    just wait until she drops another album. adele and taylor have recent releases so of course they are being played more

    also what people don’t take into account is radio budget. maybe beyoncé / her team doesn’t bother to pay predominately white pop radio stations like her counter parts do. it’s not like the stations aren’t choosing her. her label has to pay to be there (with bigger stations)

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    spongebob

    i feel like the hate on the rap art form got internalized by people who rap and now its just leading to this thread

    No, a lot of these people who are saying this are in a generation that grew up close to cultures that didn’t respect rap and they feel insecure about that

  • Dec 14, 2021

    so black artists don't exist?

  • Dec 14, 2021

    OP really got us all

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