I think it could make the top 5 if you only look at the past 10 years but Old Town Road, God's Plan, Sunflower are bigger if we're look at the numbers and all had a huge social media presence that Shake It Off didn't have even at it's peak. I'd compare it more to Work where it was big on charts but not much outside of that. It's definitely not a phenomenon like Gangnam Style or Uptown Funk was either
Sunflower
Gangnam Style
Despacito
Were all bigger songs for sure in the 2010s
I won’t sit here and deny Shake It Off is a massive song, but the biggest song of all time in the 40 and under demographic? Cmon man you’re overestimating that songs popularity when there’s a good few songs last decade that could’ve been argued as just as big.
I didn’t say there isn’t some competition, but the lyric and melody of that hook is so simple and catchy that it really stuck on a whole different level. The simple term “haters gonna hate” is so tied to the song that you can basically just say that lyric and everyone knows what song it is. It really is in a high stratosphere for a pop song
Maybe but the Beatles had like 30 Shake It Offs
Yeah and they were much earlier. So they will fade first
Sunflower
Gangnam Style
Despacito
Were all bigger songs for sure in the 2010s
Gangam Style bigger than Shake It Off? Hell no. Not nearly as much staying power
Yeah and they were much earlier. So they will fade first
Should've already faded tbh some ugly ass dudes
Shake It Off is pretty big fam. I think you could make an argument that’s the most well known song in existence today, at least in a 40 and under demographic
It gets quoted constantly throughout culture
And bro Shake It Off borrows so much of it's lyrics from simple phrases I really wouldn't say it's quotable is why it's huge. Literally the title is as old as time and "haters gonna hate" is something we all said on Tumblr in 2012 or "This sick beat" is some s*** from the 80's. I love that song but cmon
Shake It Off is pretty big fam. I think you could make an argument that’s the most well known song in existence today, at least in a 40 and under demographic
It gets quoted constantly throughout culture
Despacito is bigger than Shake it off.
I didn’t say there isn’t some competition, but the lyric and melody of that hook is so simple and catchy that it really stuck on a whole different level. The simple term “haters gonna hate” is so tied to the song that you can basically just say that lyric and everyone knows what song it is. It really is in a high stratosphere for a pop song
Dude I know people say you're not a serious poster but are you serious rn? You actually think when people say haters gonna hate it's referencing this song? I'm crying
Gangam Style bigger than Shake It Off? Hell no. Not nearly as much staying power
Gangnam Style has 5 Billion Views on YouTube, over 2 BILLION more than Shake It Off.
No, im saying the newer gen of kids/adults dont care about "mystique" & they have artists that are as big for them.
Pop demo goes crazy for Taylor, we dont because we are mostly hiphop based and "we" are old.
We are not the proper demographic nor can most of us have a serious convo about this outside of feelings and "my day".
Drake, Taylor & some others are gigantic stars not just in sales but also massive wordwide adoration. Just because "we" dont have that adoration doesnt negate it.
The younger gen of today also dont care about MJ like that and "most" think hes a pedophile, they dont really f*** with beatles either because of elton john crazy racist self etc. At least what I can parse from my own limited outside window.
The rules are not the same and the love is not the same & it will only keep trending their way the older they get.
It sucks getting old.
what? lol
pretty sure Taylor couldn't get a room of stoners, ravers, jocks, skateboarders, punks, preppy cocaine girls etc to all to absolutely lose themselves in a big drunk singalong like I've seen Hey Jude and Like A Prayer do
And bro Shake It Off borrows so much of it's lyrics from simple phrases I really wouldn't say it's quotable is why it's huge. Literally the title is as old as time and "haters gonna hate" is something we all said on Tumblr in 2012 or "This sick beat" is some s*** from the 80's. I love that song but cmon
That’s how a lot of hits are written, from taking common phrases, it’s kind of a pop cheat code. The Beatles did the same thing through their career. They didn’t come up with the phrase “I Want To Hold Your Hand” lol
part of their initial impact believe it or not was just the fact they said “yeah yeah yeah” which was seen as rebellious and representative of the youth at that time because yeah wasn’t something that respectable adults said, it was common in the culture so the Beatles made songs of it. Same with phrases like Can’t Buy Me love these were how people talked at the time and Paul in particular was good at taking a phrase and making it to a song. Shake it Off a good example of it too
pretty sure Taylor couldn't get a room of stoners, ravers, jocks, skateboarders, punks, preppy cocaine girls etc to all to absolutely lose themselves in a big drunk singalong like I've seen Hey Jude and Like A Prayer do
And that’s not even bringing up a couple of MJs songs
That’s how a lot of hits are written, from taking common phrases, it’s kind of a pop cheat code. The Beatles did the same thing through their career. They didn’t come up with the phrase “I Want To Hold Your Hand” lol
part of their initial impact believe it or not was just the fact they said “yeah yeah yeah” which was seen as rebellious and representative of the youth at that time because yeah wasn’t something that respectable adults said, it was common in the culture so the Beatles made songs of it. Same with phrases like Can’t Buy Me love these were how people talked at the time and Paul in particular was good at taking a phrase and making it to a song. Shake it Off a good example of it too
“I want to hold your hand” isn’t a phrase like “Haters gonna hate” though, that’s the singer of the song telling a girl they want to
And that’s not even bringing up a couple of MJs songs
Tbh I've never quite seen MJ do that specifically but I'm sure it happens cause f***ing everybody on Earth likes a bunch of his songs. Taylor doesn't have a song that can unite disparate social cliques like that.
Gangam Style bigger than Shake It Off? Hell no. Not nearly as much staying power
Gangnam style was HUGE, it was the first video ever to have a billion views on YouTube and every kid around the world knew the dancemoves to it. Taylor has way more longevity than Psy (I know he's still huge in Korea but the rest of the world didn't follow up after Gangnam Style) but Taylor hasn't had a song as huge and impactful as this (yet).
Tbh I've never quite seen MJ do that specifically but I'm sure it happens cause f***ing everybody on Earth likes a bunch of his songs. Taylor doesn't have a song that can unite disparate social cliques like that.
Fair enough. I’ve actually seen it in person myself with “Don’t Stop Till You Get Enough”, which just absolutely brought the house down at the school dance.
Gangam Style bigger than Shake It Off? Hell no. Not nearly as much staying power
Post your birth certificate rn
Post your birth certificate rn
This is the dude that was arguing for pages that stand up comedians should be good looking earlier. I wouldn't get too invested in logic here.
“I want to hold your hand” isn’t a phrase like “Haters gonna hate” though, that’s the singer of the song telling a girl they want to
I want to hold your hand isn’t a question lol
And sometimes the idea of something being a “phrase” can get lost to time. The phrases like “Love Me Do” or “All My Loving” “Please Please Me” or “Can’t Buy Me Love” feel more quaint or like they have existed forever, but believe it or not, at one point, these phrases were very representative of the youth culture and would’ve been borderline obscene to adults. So that context matters. It’s damn near the equivalent of someone today making a song called “Buss it Open” or something, these were suggestive and new phrases for the time