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  • Feb 25, 2024
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    The Darkest Angel

    I think it could make the top 5 if you only look at the past 10 years but Old Town Road, God's Plan, Sunflower are bigger if we're look at the numbers and all had a huge social media presence that Shake It Off didn't have even at it's peak. I'd compare it more to Work where it was big on charts but not much outside of that. It's definitely not a phenomenon like Gangnam Style or Uptown Funk was either

    Sunflower
    Gangnam Style
    Despacito

    Were all bigger songs for sure in the 2010s

  • Feb 25, 2024
    Elric

    Maybe but the Beatles had like 30 Shake It Offs

  • Feb 25, 2024
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    WESLEY PRESELY

    I won’t sit here and deny Shake It Off is a massive song, but the biggest song of all time in the 40 and under demographic? Cmon man you’re overestimating that songs popularity when there’s a good few songs last decade that could’ve been argued as just as big.

    I didn’t say there isn’t some competition, but the lyric and melody of that hook is so simple and catchy that it really stuck on a whole different level. The simple term “haters gonna hate” is so tied to the song that you can basically just say that lyric and everyone knows what song it is. It really is in a high stratosphere for a pop song

  • Feb 25, 2024
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    Elric

    Maybe but the Beatles had like 30 Shake It Offs

    Yeah and they were much earlier. So they will fade first

  • Feb 25, 2024
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    WESLEY PRESELY

    Sunflower
    Gangnam Style
    Despacito

    Were all bigger songs for sure in the 2010s

    Gangam Style bigger than Shake It Off? Hell no. Not nearly as much staying power

  • Feb 25, 2024
    2words

    Yeah and they were much earlier. So they will fade first

    Should've already faded tbh some ugly ass dudes

  • Feb 25, 2024
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    2words

    Shake It Off is pretty big fam. I think you could make an argument that’s the most well known song in existence today, at least in a 40 and under demographic

    It gets quoted constantly throughout culture

    And bro Shake It Off borrows so much of it's lyrics from simple phrases I really wouldn't say it's quotable is why it's huge. Literally the title is as old as time and "haters gonna hate" is something we all said on Tumblr in 2012 or "This sick beat" is some s*** from the 80's. I love that song but cmon

  • Feb 25, 2024
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    no person on this earth will ever be bigger than MJ

  • Feb 25, 2024
    2words

    Shake It Off is pretty big fam. I think you could make an argument that’s the most well known song in existence today, at least in a 40 and under demographic

    It gets quoted constantly throughout culture

    Despacito is bigger than Shake it off.

  • 2words

    I didn’t say there isn’t some competition, but the lyric and melody of that hook is so simple and catchy that it really stuck on a whole different level. The simple term “haters gonna hate” is so tied to the song that you can basically just say that lyric and everyone knows what song it is. It really is in a high stratosphere for a pop song

    Dude I know people say you're not a serious poster but are you serious rn? You actually think when people say haters gonna hate it's referencing this song? I'm crying

  • Feb 25, 2024
    soapmanwun

    no person on this earth will ever be bigger than MJ

  • X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    bro just be chatting lmfaoo

  • Feb 25, 2024
    2words

    Gangam Style bigger than Shake It Off? Hell no. Not nearly as much staying power

    Gangnam Style has 5 Billion Views on YouTube, over 2 BILLION more than Shake It Off.

  • Water Giver

    No, im saying the newer gen of kids/adults dont care about "mystique" & they have artists that are as big for them.

    Pop demo goes crazy for Taylor, we dont because we are mostly hiphop based and "we" are old.

    We are not the proper demographic nor can most of us have a serious convo about this outside of feelings and "my day".

    Drake, Taylor & some others are gigantic stars not just in sales but also massive wordwide adoration. Just because "we" dont have that adoration doesnt negate it.

    The younger gen of today also dont care about MJ like that and "most" think hes a pedophile, they dont really f*** with beatles either because of elton john crazy racist self etc. At least what I can parse from my own limited outside window.

    The rules are not the same and the love is not the same & it will only keep trending their way the older they get.

    It sucks getting old.

    what? lol

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    pretty sure Taylor couldn't get a room of stoners, ravers, jocks, skateboarders, punks, preppy cocaine girls etc to all to absolutely lose themselves in a big drunk singalong like I've seen Hey Jude and Like A Prayer do

  • Feb 25, 2024
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    The Darkest Angel

    And bro Shake It Off borrows so much of it's lyrics from simple phrases I really wouldn't say it's quotable is why it's huge. Literally the title is as old as time and "haters gonna hate" is something we all said on Tumblr in 2012 or "This sick beat" is some s*** from the 80's. I love that song but cmon

    That’s how a lot of hits are written, from taking common phrases, it’s kind of a pop cheat code. The Beatles did the same thing through their career. They didn’t come up with the phrase “I Want To Hold Your Hand” lol

    part of their initial impact believe it or not was just the fact they said “yeah yeah yeah” which was seen as rebellious and representative of the youth at that time because yeah wasn’t something that respectable adults said, it was common in the culture so the Beatles made songs of it. Same with phrases like Can’t Buy Me love these were how people talked at the time and Paul in particular was good at taking a phrase and making it to a song. Shake it Off a good example of it too

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    pretty sure Taylor couldn't get a room of stoners, ravers, jocks, skateboarders, punks, preppy cocaine girls etc to all to absolutely lose themselves in a big drunk singalong like I've seen Hey Jude and Like A Prayer do

    And that’s not even bringing up a couple of MJs songs

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    2words

    That’s how a lot of hits are written, from taking common phrases, it’s kind of a pop cheat code. The Beatles did the same thing through their career. They didn’t come up with the phrase “I Want To Hold Your Hand” lol

    part of their initial impact believe it or not was just the fact they said “yeah yeah yeah” which was seen as rebellious and representative of the youth at that time because yeah wasn’t something that respectable adults said, it was common in the culture so the Beatles made songs of it. Same with phrases like Can’t Buy Me love these were how people talked at the time and Paul in particular was good at taking a phrase and making it to a song. Shake it Off a good example of it too

    “I want to hold your hand” isn’t a phrase like “Haters gonna hate” though, that’s the singer of the song telling a girl they want to

  • Feb 25, 2024
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    WESLEY PRESELY

    And that’s not even bringing up a couple of MJs songs

    Tbh I've never quite seen MJ do that specifically but I'm sure it happens cause f***ing everybody on Earth likes a bunch of his songs. Taylor doesn't have a song that can unite disparate social cliques like that.

  • Feb 25, 2024
    2words

    Gangam Style bigger than Shake It Off? Hell no. Not nearly as much staying power

    Gangnam style was HUGE, it was the first video ever to have a billion views on YouTube and every kid around the world knew the dancemoves to it. Taylor has way more longevity than Psy (I know he's still huge in Korea but the rest of the world didn't follow up after Gangnam Style) but Taylor hasn't had a song as huge and impactful as this (yet).

  • Feb 25, 2024
    Elric

    Tbh I've never quite seen MJ do that specifically but I'm sure it happens cause f***ing everybody on Earth likes a bunch of his songs. Taylor doesn't have a song that can unite disparate social cliques like that.

    Fair enough. I’ve actually seen it in person myself with “Don’t Stop Till You Get Enough”, which just absolutely brought the house down at the school dance.

  • Feb 25, 2024
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    2words

    Gangam Style bigger than Shake It Off? Hell no. Not nearly as much staying power

    Post your birth certificate rn

  • Feb 25, 2024
    The Darkest Angel

    Post your birth certificate rn

    This is the dude that was arguing for pages that stand up comedians should be good looking earlier. I wouldn't get too invested in logic here.

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    “I want to hold your hand” isn’t a phrase like “Haters gonna hate” though, that’s the singer of the song telling a girl they want to

    I want to hold your hand isn’t a question lol

    And sometimes the idea of something being a “phrase” can get lost to time. The phrases like “Love Me Do” or “All My Loving” “Please Please Me” or “Can’t Buy Me Love” feel more quaint or like they have existed forever, but believe it or not, at one point, these phrases were very representative of the youth culture and would’ve been borderline obscene to adults. So that context matters. It’s damn near the equivalent of someone today making a song called “Buss it Open” or something, these were suggestive and new phrases for the time

  • Feb 25, 2024
    The Darkest Angel

    Post your birth certificate rn

    Ok I’ll take the L i thought gangam style was just a meme, it’s hard to compare to songs with actual choruses and verses and s*** lol but ok I was wrong there

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