It absolutely does. Someone who grew up mainly seeing situational poverty/homeless in a suburb is going to have very different beliefs on homelessness than someone who grew up in a city like NYC or Baltimore and mainly saw severely mentally ill homeless people and addicts on the subways or street-corners.
yeah, maybe if those people think the world ends where there zip code does
If I didn't have anywhere else to go hell yes
Why the hell would I sleep on the concrete street cold af covering myself with a cardboard box
you realize homeless shelters are not long term solutions right? like they can end your stay? does this escape you
this is unbelievably ironic when you and the other guy in fact have the the classic republican western individualistic view on this issue
“Its a free country they should be able to harm themselves as much as they want”
Literally objectivism and western individualism could be straight from ayn rand lol
If they wanna smoke angel dust under the highway let em rock
yeah, maybe if those people think the world ends where there zip code does
That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying your view of how scenarios can be fixed is inherently going to be skewed by the perspective you have from you've been raised and how you've come to understand those issues.
“We must protect the mentally ills personal freedom to smoke crack in poor disenfranchised communities while they spread medieval diseases in those same communities....”
This is your take Right now lol
this is unbelievably ironic when you and the other guy in fact have the the classic republican western individualistic view on this issue
“Its a free country they should be able to harm themselves as much as they want”
Literally objectivism and western individualism could be straight from ayn rand lol
i haven’t even said s*** outside of the fact your mental asylum “final solution” is bonkers yet you paint whatever story you want bro, i tried to say as much in my previous post
If they wanna smoke angel dust under the highway let em rock
You probably live in the suburbs and have no idea how much societal harm is caused by these d*** addicts to poorer American communities where most of the residents are people of colour and new immigrants
Who cares
It's inhumane to force people on d**** against their will, and make them live in a depressing barred-window ass building away from society. And why, just because they've been deemed "mentally ill"?
And you should know by default those places have systematic abuse, the staff will do anything they want to those people and nobody will say a word.
Naw this ain't it.
i haven’t even said s*** outside of the fact your mental asylum “final solution” is bonkers yet you paint whatever story you want bro, i tried to say as much in my previous post
do you think everyone can be integrated into society, no matter how severely mentally ill or hopelessly addicted they are? Don't answer based on what you think my beliefs are, just yes, no, or alternatively what you think can be done in spite of that.
That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying your view of how scenarios can be fixed is inherently going to be skewed by the perspective you have from you've been raised and how you've come to understand those issues.
i don't have to have been born anywhere specific to realize you can invest in low income housing to begin solving homelessness. i said nothing about mental health in my post because it's a separate issue that requires separate solutions. but not all mentally ill homeless people are crazy lunatics or "severely mentally ill"
do you think everyone can be integrated into society, no matter how severely mentally ill or hopelessly addicted they are? Don't answer based on what you think my beliefs are, just yes, no, or alternatively what you think can be done in spite of that.
no but mental asylums are obviously not a solution and i shouldn’t even be having this discussion lol
Thought it was a free country but I guess not
This freedom s*** got out of hand in this country. Humans cannot be trusted with absolute freedom and history has proven that civilization needs to be controlled to some extent.
We don't have to go full north korea but Americans cry about everything by saying its attacking their freedom.
If some psycho is homeless out in the streets they need to be separated from society. If they aren't mentally competent it's up to the doctors to choose the course of treatment if they have no legal health proxy.
i don't have to have been born anywhere specific to realize you can invest in low income housing to begin solving homelessness. i said nothing about mental health in my post because it's a separate issue that requires separate solutions. but not all mentally ill homeless people are crazy lunatics or "severely mentally ill"
You're right, and I'm not against ensuring economic security at all - in fact, it's a core part of my beliefs; I'm not a capitalist. But I also do not think the same solution can be applied across the board. This solution helps the working class from falling into homelessness, it doesn't help the invisible class, people don't want to talk about.
You probably live in the suburbs and have no idea how much societal harm is caused by these d*** addicts to poorer American communities where most of the residents are people of colour and new immigrants
I see em every time I go outside
I do think they should get help but being locked away and forced onto d**** against their will isn't the solution. Honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not in this thread but it seems like you don't view them as human.
no but mental asylums are obviously not a solution and i shouldn’t even be having this discussion lol
What do you think should be done?
I see em every time I go outside
I do think they should get help but being locked away and forced onto d**** against their will isn't the solution. Honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not in this thread but it seems like you don't view them as human.
By entire perspective comes from the fact that I view them as humans and equals...
That’s why I recognize the fact they are not in the right state of mind to be making decisions for themselves. They the safety and stability of state care wether temporary or permanent, it is 100 times more humane then letting them live like wild animals on downtown streets
What do you think should be done?
idk i’m just going to vote for the people i think can get it done. i’m not gonna pretend i have a solution or pontificate about matters i am too stupid to understand but i also am not too dumb where i can’t call out others for doing so and spouting complete nonsense that even my slow ass can see clearly.
like if i felt i had a genuine solution i’d prolly get into politics lol
Were your perspective comes from you not caring about their safety because in your own words “they don’t bother you”
I’m sorry seeing people rot away and slowly die in the richest country in the world “doesn’t bother you”
Were your perspective comes from you not caring about their safety because in your own words “they don’t bother you”
I’m sorry seeing people rot away and slowly die in the richest country in the world “doesn’t bother you”
out of sight out of mind, am i right ???
idk i’m just going to vote for the people i think can get it done. i’m not gonna pretend i have a solution or pontificate about matters i am too stupid to understand but i also am not too dumb where i can’t call out others for doing so and spouting complete nonsense that even my slow ass can see clearly.
like if i felt i had a genuine solution i’d prolly get into politics lol
Okay, that's fair enough.
this dude thinks people gon care more about the homeless when they ARENT forced to see them every day
this dude thinks people gon care more about the homeless when they ARENT forced to see them every day
It doesn’t matter to me wether or not the average American “cares about them”
I just want them off the streets and into state care where they have a safe environment to get better
By entire perspective comes from the fact that I view them as humans and equals...
That’s why I recognize the fact they are not in the right state of mind to be making decisions for themselves. They the safety and stability of state care wether temporary or permanent, it is 100 times more humane then letting them live like wild animals on downtown streets
I get how you could think they help people in need but it's just a way for the state to lock people away, asylums are not a good place to live. I'm sure a lot of em would commit suicide if they could, and I personally don't believe someone's freedom should be decided by a random doctor.