Jan 28, 2021·1 reply
925Andrew· editedTo be fair Weeknd trilogy sound did kinda put rnb in a new direction offset from that s***ty usher OMG DJ got us falling in love era, BUT it still has a lot of influence to other genres. It’s almost like a bridge to PND which is a bridge to the new era with the szas and all that.
And frank just does whatever he wants, he just dropped a song prod by justice for gods sakes and another that sounds like drake in my feelings but in Spanish with pitched vocals
shitty usher rnb era
- Jan 28, 2021·1 reply!https://youtu.be/5N8YRren5Z4
CultureThis is real diversity
Modern R&B
S*** is crazy.. come on KTT2
This kinda music will always be tropical whatever genre it is because I don’t know the ins and outs of what makes something Afrobeats and what makes something dancehall and all yhat
- Jan 28, 2021·1 reply925Andrew· edited
To be fair Weeknd trilogy sound did kinda put rnb in a new direction offset from that s***ty usher OMG DJ got us falling in love era, BUT it still has a lot of influence to other genres. It’s almost like a bridge to PND which is a bridge to the new era with the szas and all that.
And frank just does whatever he wants, he just dropped a song prod by justice for gods sakes and another that sounds like drake in my feelings but in Spanish with pitched vocals
S***ty usher r&b? Those were good songs
- Jan 28, 2021·1 replydirtgirlworld
shitty usher rnb era
I meant the one where he was maki edm s***
I like it cause of nostalgia but it’s not good for the genre
Like OMG type sound
Jan 28, 2021·edited
black hedi slimanethe weeknd literally samples
beach house
cocteau twins
portishead
Siouxsie and the bansheesyes the weeknd is closer to those guys than his peers, his success was due to him being the furthest thing from his peers
BBTM is more pop than r&b IMO so i’ll just leave that alone
you can’t argue starboy and i’ll leave MDM alone bc those synths telling me otherwise but i’ll let you have that one bc of his vocals.
bryson tiller’s pop rap is closer in sound and references r&b more often than weeknd. this isn’t even subjective, bryson’s music is influenced more largely by r&b
there is no abel without r&b but his source of influences is so massive and widespread, it’s hard to reasonably pick out the r&b elements.
it’s not in the drums, it’s not in the melodies, it’s definitely not in the chord progressions he uses. weeknd tracks play out and organized like pop songs, you tell me if you hear the same progressions you would hear on a maxwell record, on a d’angelo record, on a prince record, on ANY weeknd record.
you’re just wrong about this one bro
Just because he samples those obscure bands doesn't mean he's not R&B. The Dream and Cassie for example introduce different sounds to their music, but they are still R&B. Also, none of those bands are darkwave, they are dream pop, trip hop and post-punk... so is Weeknd those genres now even though the samples he uses are so manipulated you can even hear what the original sounds like? Like I said, BBTM and Starboy are both pop and r&b with a bunch of eclectic range of sounds, but inherently it's still R&B. MDM is easily R&B.
Bryson literally sing-talks and raps on ethereal and trap production, but somehow that makes him more R&B than an actual soulful nigga that can actually sing.
it’s not in the drums, it’s not in the melodies, it’s definitely not in the chord progressions he uses. weeknd tracks play out and organized like pop songs, you tell me if you hear the same progressions you would hear on a maxwell record, on a d’angelo record, on a prince record, on ANY weeknd record.
weeknd definitely moved to pop bro, but he's still R&B in the way MJ is.
also, if you compare him to those guys obviously he sounds bleak in comparison, but he's still r&b, again i'm not denying that he's also pop. the chord progressions he uses and i'm not even talking about the song structure, i'm talking about the same thing u saying. for example blinding lights is 100% a pop song in every way, no r&b traits just like heartless is a 100% rnb track on trap prod
Tomorrow 🪄Jan 28, 2021·1 reply925Andrew· editedTo be fair Weeknd trilogy sound did kinda put rnb in a new direction offset from that s***ty usher OMG DJ got us falling in love era, BUT it still has a lot of influence to other genres. It’s almost like a bridge to PND which is a bridge to the new era with the szas and all that.
And frank just does whatever he wants, he just dropped a song prod by justice for gods sakes and another that sounds like drake in my feelings but in Spanish with pitched vocals
What Usher RNB era are you talking about....
- Jan 28, 2021·1 replyOoo
S***ty usher r&b? Those were good songs
Talking about the 2008-2010 era stuff I’ll edit my post
- Jan 28, 2021·1 replyTomorrow
What Usher RNB era are you talking about....
OMG
Jan 28, 2021metBecause Kevin Parker started a f***ing psychedelic rock project while Frank is known as an R&B artist, it's not like Blonde doesn't have R&B songs. CO is traditional R&B first before anything else and here you are calling him not R&B. I saw your comments pages ago discrediting traditional R&B, idk why I'm even talking to you.
The XX is an indie band that plays with a bunch of different sounds, Weeknd basically sings in a soulful way in almost every song. Just because he doesn't sing on contemporary slick R&B 2000s production doesn't make him not R&B.
Brent, 6lack and DVSN are all alternative r&b, but they don't go away from their roots, which is why they are still called r&b instead of anything else.
And so what kevin started a psych rock band frank started rapping in triplet flows on trippy beats like he Asap rocky...on multiple tracks
Last count the rnb songs on blonde then. Nikes (barely), pink n white, godspeed, self control, seigfried (maybe) 5-6 tracks out of 15 songs not including interludes.
Then you have endless, blonded singles, 2019 singles.
Idk bro lets just agree to disagree
- Jan 28, 2021·1 reply925Andrew
Talking about the 2008-2010 era stuff I’ll edit my post
Those were good songs lol
- Jan 28, 2021925Andrew
I meant the one where he was maki edm s***
I like it cause of nostalgia but it’s not good for the genre
Like OMG type sound
i agree then. i see that weird era of rnb as rnb dudes attempting to do what weeknd did successfully, find a new category of rnb that sticks i guess
- Tomorrow 🪄Jan 28, 2021·1 reply925Andrew
OMG
Oh okay, yeah I’m not too big on that either. Not bad but not my cup of tea
- Jan 28, 2021Culture
Breh huh
Explain lok
This is dancehall/reggae type s***
- Jan 28, 2021Ooo
Those were good songs lol
I like them, but it wasn’t a good direction for rnb to go because then Chris was making don’t wake me up and Rihanna started doing Calvin Harris collabs and rnb was kinda on a dead end road before the 808s to drake to Weeknd to PND to the rest of the new artists kinda sound
- Jan 28, 2021·2 replies925Andrew
To be fair, any sound labeled as rnb can be rnb, like the genres changed so much
Even before I feel like they woulda called like Stevie wonder rnb. I’m surprised MJ isn’t known as rnb cause his music is way more that than pop
nah yea
i shouldn’t be this worked up because genre is meaningless. r&b is based on race lets be honest
i’m fine with frank being r&b because elements i know to be r&b are present.
as i get older, i realize the reason why i loved the weeknd’s first two albums is because they weren’t r&b. to my ears they share more qualities to that of shoegaze and 80’s darkwave, especially when you look at the samples.
wicked games is looked at as a r&bclassic but if it was released by a white artist it would def be seen as an indie rock classic without a doubt.
miguel is a good example bc he has a lot of guitsr in his music but it’s much more modern r&b. the weeknd’s use of guitar feels more based in new wave music than any r&b guitar i’ve listened to
- Jan 28, 2021·1 reply925Andrew
This kinda music will always be tropical whatever genre it is because I don’t know the ins and outs of what makes something Afrobeats and what makes something dancehall and all yhat
Son...
Champagne didn’t spit a bar on the record.. it’s an R&B song
You act like I posted a link to laugh now cry later
This what the genre has evolved into in 2021
- Jan 28, 2021Tomorrow
Oh okay, yeah I’m not too big on that either. Not bad but not my cup of tea
I like them but like I said it wasn’t a good place for Chris or Rihanna or anyone else who hopped on the wave
Jan 28, 2021
Jodecidal HotlineAbel is not R&B.
Summer Walker out now
SZA out now
HER out now
Bryson out now
Jhene Aiko out nowAll mid tbh
- Jan 28, 2021Culture
Son...
Champagne didn’t spit a bar on the record.. it’s an R&B song
You act like I posted a link to laugh now cry later
This what the genre has evolved into in 2021
Singing doesn’t equal rhythm and blues
Nothing about the song blues
- Jan 28, 2021
mm imma agree to disagree but imma give trilogy a delisted. haven’t listened to in a while bc i overplayed it for so many years.
maybe my opinion will change !
- Jan 28, 2021
FREEBrent soon
Jan 28, 2021i honestly like it like that
- Jan 28, 2021·1 reply
There will never be another confessions. At least from a male artist