Of course it does.

But whether it's a good film or album, once you've learned all there is about it, the feeling you get from experiencing it diminishes the more you do it within a short span of time.

It's defined by a general consensus tho. If most people are no longer revisiting that album then idk why it would be considered a classic.

If most people go through their music library looking to play something and never stop on a album and think "yea let me listen to this" then I don't get it.

Some albums are more sonically abrasive, dark, challenging, and can still be all time great albums despite not being as replayable as some inoffensive pop tunes. Try again

That numbers a bit drastic but I'll bite.
It's about the imprint. I'll take another 2015 album for example. I've listened to IYRTITL a good 150 times. Easy to listen to and very enjoyable. I've probably listened to TPAB 30-40 times because I digest it more deeply. It leaves an imprint every time I play it. I love both albums, but TPAB was a bullet.

So then how is it a universal classic. Ya'll confusing favorite albums with CLASSICS.

Classics are universally loved and accepted with the majority of fans of said genre.

Sonically abrasive, dark, challenging..you throwing out a bunch of adjectives for no reason. If that's what the album is then it sounds much more NICHE than CLASSIC.

People forgot what classic means s*** is sad

Music and film aren't the same kind of medium also. They're not related closely enough to make this argument.

Lol, I will. It's one of those albums that will never go away for me.

entire thread is willfully misinterpreting OP. hes saying that certain albums are classic quality, but need you to be in a specific emotional state to really enjoy/get a lot out of them.

for example i probably listen to nonstop (lets go w that since you clearly love drake) more than u. u is still a way better the song. the issue is that its a dark and emotionally draining listen, cant just play it in the whip or when im chilling with friends.

plenty of other examples. carrie & lowell, some of 808s, etc

and also, a lot of TPAB DOES have tons of replay value but a lot of it DOESNT. this whole site has a massive issue with taking everything to ridiculous absolutes.

the point is that TPAB would be even more appreciated if y'all realized that not every song has to be on constant repeat for it to be seen as "classic"

But some genres are already far more niche than others, for instance an all time great noise album is going to be a thousand times more niche than an all time great pop rap album like take care or something

There are less conventional forms of music that are made to be intentionally challenging, at least compared to what normies listen to

I would say that in general what you’re saying is true, but it’s not so black and white

the songs that you listen to the most are the songs that you like the most. simple.

again this makes zero sense. there are songs that are difficult to listen to in every situation that are still amazing.

I feel like you are insecure about what you really like and feel obligated to think that TPAB is the better album because you've been conditioned by critics and internet forums to do so

If those stats are true then you just like IYRTITL more. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a fantastic album and I'm sure 90% of the world would rather listen to that than TPAB on any given day.

Y’all formed your entire opinion on what the word “Classic” even means based around years and years of posting on a primarily hip hop/pop forum so of course you guys are overvaluing replay value

All you have to do to be a classic is be an all time great album. Idc if it sounds like Ed sheeran or sheer hellish miasma

Also I’d value something like how well it aged and how influential it was over just straight up “replay value”

yeah honestly discussion over what a "classic" is has gone too far. most true classics aren't even debated on KTT, its just recent albums loved by stans that spark all these wack debates

I agree. I'm not arguing that. Some genres are more niche than others and some albums that would be considered niche by most are actually right on target for fans of that genre.

But if you're making a rap album or a pop album and it's incredibly unconventional then it's gonna be difficult for that to be perceived as a classic by the majority. That's why we have the term "cult classic". Something like TPAB is a cult classic. Something like Madvillainy is a cult classic. Good Kid Mad City is a classic. Blueprint is a classic.

But your in a certain mood so you’ll replay that album. Giving it replay value. Same reason why everyone tells you to listen to Take Care or 808’s when your sad. Because they have replay value during those emotions

not disagreeing with that.

Sorry, but your wrong. Music is more than just sounds I enjoy. TPAB makes my top 10 of the 10's as far as albums go. IYRTITL does not. Still a great project to me.

you'll still listen to some mid pop s*** more because there more "moods" that its okay to play it during.

the more emotionally specific and intense a song is, the more difficult it is to play a bunch of times. doesnt make it a worse song.