loving all the discussion in here

Just thinking about it, other than the family and hope points discussed, y'all think leaving the door open gave Frank some importance in his final days like someone may be coming for him when in reality he knows no one is coming for him because no one remembers him.

Also, this may be one of my favourite openings to a movie, the smooth tracking shot through the retirement home with In The Still Of The Night playing and the anticipation building - then you see Frank seated wearing Russell's ring and Hoffa's watch.

More than a classic, a defining movie that feels like a letter

What your greatest movie of all time ? I'd take PF over this anytime of the day.

The CGI was subjectively bad unless you are blind, We literally have seen how those actors looked at a younger age and it's nothing like what was presented in this movie.

As sad as this sounds, this movie will propel to new heights when none of these guys are with us anymore. Making me upset just thinking about it.

De Niro looked like he was doing a sad face the entire movie and its just hard to get over.

exactly. even frank really didnt care for the award that much. he wasnt even paying attention. he was peeping the politics between hoffa and russ. frank was more moved by the fact that russ gave him that ring. bro was tearing up. but i think russ and fat tony made up their minds to dust hoffa right there as hoffa was dancing with peggy. and i really believe frank knew it all, but he just went with the flow and tried his best to just do his job

every shot of the ring and the watch hit frfr.

Like @Campari said the opening shot of the ring and the watch sums up the legacy of Frank, he cared, it was about loyalty, it was personal

oh we only supposed to circlejerk the movie here, my bad.

Also I didn’t look up what’s the exact budget of the movie and how much it is in comparison to other movies that are made on that scale but I am only guess that it must have been ridiculous get all the locations and that cast, so it’s amazing there was enough to make some CGI this believable, even if you think it could’ve been better, it’s pretty good coming from a streaming service and we should be grateful I think

yup. i just love how good of a director scorsese is. any other director wouldve added the melodrama. him screaming "BUT WE MUST FIND A WAY. WHY MUST THIS BE MY PLIGHT FEEL MY PAIN" but nah, s*** was all internal for frank. he was a soldier

Definitely something to take away from that

Pesci coming back from retirement and delivering this performance is akin to Jordan coming back and winning in 96

Shout out to Don Rickles cameo too f***

Am I the one looking too much into Russ taking away Franks glasses and giving it back to him only when he comes back and he’s done with it?

Is it just him being detached from it, it’s a job and not personal or is it on the other hand personal like him being maybe like look him in the eyes when you do it, or like don’t hide behind those sunglasses? that’s how I looked at it

I loved the movie but something was just missing in order for me to give it 5/5.

Rewatching this weekend

OH f*** I forgot to mention here, that book is going on sale next week I think.

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Preorders up now, price is insaaaane though

Looks f***ing fire, however.

Damn that’s a solid Christmas gift

Yup I took it as Russ wanting Frank not to hide how he felt behind the glasses and to truly commit to the murder. Bruh's back was against the wall

that phone call with Hoffa's wife

I had a chat about it with my man @Bad_Finger_Boogie and his take was that it was Russ manipulative ways as in to always be on Franks mind even if it’s something as insignificant as glasses Frank would be like “Where are they oh right Russ has them” and I loved that, thought that was so Russ s*** brings more spooky layers

That silent pause in his room, by himself, once the phone call is over, it really echoes his direction in hindsight, a foreshadow of his loneliness, real sad

I thought it was Russ gauging Frank's emotions. He wanted to see his exact mindstate. Also, a common tip in hits is don't wear anything loose like glasses because you may forget them at the scene. Don't know if it applied during this scenario.

Almost felt like Hoffa's wife was consoling Frank rather than the other way around