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  • Mar 17, 2021
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    BadKarma

    If I wasn’t religious I would definitely be termed as a socialist but I’m not going to go by that label

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    Sand Man

    Zhou Enlai declared, "We Communists are atheists"

    No thank you.

  • Mar 17, 2021
    BadKarma

    Zhou Enlai declared, "We Communists are atheists"

    No thank you.

    There’s plenty of religious communists

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    Cudderwalks

    Why?

    Marx dislikes religion lmao

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    I’m not going to support a man that calls my religion opium lmao and I’m not going to argue with you all

  • Mar 17, 2021

    Labels don’t mean S***

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    soapmanwun

    I'm pro whatever works

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    BadKarma

    I’m not going to support a man that calls my religion opium lmao and I’m not going to argue with you all

    i mean, that quote is taken out of context perhaps more than any quote in history lol

  • Mar 17, 2021
    Sand Man

    as I responded to someone earlier, this line of thinking is dumb because we have very clear examples that capitalism does not work

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    Synopsis

    i mean, that quote is taken out of context perhaps more than any quote in history lol

    What do you mean by that

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    If you can prove to me Socialism doesn’t dislike religion I will wholeheartedly be labeled a socialist

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    BadKarma

    What do you mean by that

    Well for example, at the time of his writing it, opium was not associated with d*** addiction, but as a pain reliver. He thought religion was a way for people to lower their immediate suffering, but he also saw how it could be harmful to revolutionary goals because it could push people away from class consciousness.

    as for socialism disliking religion, there are religion socialists, and for example in cuba there are religious groups of people who i believe are indigenous to the island (could be wrong on the latter part but i know there are religions)

  • Mar 17, 2021
    Synopsis

    Well for example, at the time of his writing it, opium was not associated with d*** addiction, but as a pain reliver. He thought religion was a way for people to lower their immediate suffering, but he also saw how it could be harmful to revolutionary goals because it could push people away from class consciousness.

    as for socialism disliking religion, there are religion socialists, and for example in cuba there are religious groups of people who i believe are indigenous to the island (could be wrong on the latter part but i know there are religions)

    might have to do some research about that

  • rano 🇧🇷
    Mar 17, 2021
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    I consider myself a socialist but mfers online call themselves socialists while praising the CCP and other garbage authoritarian governments so I tend to not mention it in online discussions lol

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    BadKarma

    If I wasn’t religious I would definitely be termed as a socialist but I’m not going to go by that label

    what religion

  • Mar 17, 2021
    spongebob

    what religion

    Islam

  • Mar 17, 2021
    space0cadet

    If you aren't a socialist you don't care about people in the global south / third world. They are slaving their lives to transnational corporations for your benefit. That is the end of the story and you should feel bad if you do not have empathy for them.

    good point but people are still learning about the concept of the global south as well (including me), so I wouldn't say all the people don't care they just don't know yet,

    Some people it does apply to though

  • TITOWORLD 🫵🏽
    Mar 17, 2021
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    Bruh I'm just tryna get money and do what I love.

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    BadKarma

    Marx dislikes religion lmao

    different interpretations that build off of marx's material philosophy don't have to emphasize anti-religious standpoints to get their point across about the state of labor and inequality though,

    Although the guise of religion has been used to manipulate people so much, even in the last half decade look at what happened with evangelicals and tr*mp

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    TITOWORLD

    Bruh I'm just tryna get money and do what I love.

    I already know ur politically illiterate dw

  • Mar 17, 2021
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    spongebob

    different interpretations that build off of marx's material philosophy don't have to emphasize anti-religious standpoints to get their point across about the state of labor and inequality though,

    Although the guise of religion has been used to manipulate people so much, even in the last half decade look at what happened with evangelicals and tr*mp

    That’s why I don’t think Labels are necessary

  • Mar 17, 2021
    BadKarma

    If you can prove to me Socialism doesn’t dislike religion I will wholeheartedly be labeled a socialist

    lets go

    There are certain aspects of socialism that people attached to Christianity at one point (in russia at one point for example, I don't know the state of how that mixes together these days over there),

    You can disagree with certain statements of a writer but still admit they seemed to be fairly right about A, B, or C...

    And even at that, all the people that came after Marx adapted his points as a starting point to their own interpretation, there are some people that connect religion to their own personal compassion and service to others which can overlap with a desire toward socialism and people getting their fair share to live in much less misery

  • Mar 17, 2021
    Synopsis

    I already know ur politically illiterate dw

  • Mar 17, 2021
    BadKarma

    That’s why I don’t think Labels are necessary

    I don't really label myself either because to call myself anything I'd want to be much more well-read.

    I'm open to a lot of ideas, and I think people who are anti-socialist are often kinda boxed in and not really set free to think on their own a lot of times.

    This is why a lot of socialist and associated beliefs despise the more center left because they may agree with some socialist leaning principles but be too afraid to acknowledge it, and it's like: we don't have much time to waste lol we're all mortal

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    @BadKarma It takes a little while to adjust and connect socialism to your actual reality when you're living in a hyper-capitalist, anti-human-well-being system, and that's where I'm at.

    Just trying to be well rounded in what things actually are and have been up to this point.

    But I consider myself very open to these ideas and want to learn more and become more well-versed. I'll be whatever I need to be tbh, to help the most people, all these buzzwords to get attention on political pundit TV's aren't really important to me,

    but socialism is a good basis to remedy a lot of issues we've seen arise in capitalist systems I do think it does warrant a post-capitalist society

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