Question does everyone in here rn have a degree?

under anarcho-capitalism theres more freedoms and rights as long as you dont go against non aggression principle

Yes

Not trolling you but it kinda seems convoluted and why libertarians don’t take dubs

I can tell because these definitely are not high school words being used here lol. I like trying to keep up though, then when I get my degree and I’m washed on KTT by then ima body these threads

its not very difficult to understand imo lol. ask questions if u have em

it's a way for right wingers to co opt anarchist aesthetics just like how they co opted the term libertarian

hate these snakes that are the reason "politics" is so f***ing confusing

anarchism and anarcho-capitalism really arnt that different

anarchism and capitalism are two ideologies that are diametrically opposed

i don't see how the term means anything without a misunderstanding of one or both terms

how are they diametrically opposed?

name 3 differences between anarcho-capitalism and anarchism (besides just attacking the name)

anarcho-capitalism or american libertarianism is really just a rebranding of classical liberalism. the idea that markets are the most efficient form of organization and that the market must be as free as possible with as little regulation as possible. classic liberalism pushes for deregulation of markets and is founded on the belief that the effort of an individual to better his own material conditions creates natural corrections to improve society as a whole.

anarchism as a whole demands the dismantling of hierarchies and democratization of government.

allowing the accumulation of private capital and organizing society around capital means creating a hierarchy where the few people with capital would have dictatorial control over the conditions of the masses without.

forcing people to compete in markets for necessities such as food water healthcare and shelter means the market can not be truly "free" as the value of basic human necessities will never be able to have a "true value" to find.

deregulation of industry means that the protections people have to receive the aid they need in order to participate in society can and will be stripped away in the effort of accumulating capital. putting individuals in charge of industry without any incentives to ensure the freedom of the people means guaranteeing "anarchy" for the rich and dictatorship over the poor, which is the exact opposite of the concept of anarchism.

again i don't see how the two ideologies are compatible in any way other than including the word "anarchy" in the name. but who knows maybe you can prove me wrong

"anarcho-capitalism or american libertarianism is really just a rebranding of classical liberalism"

Ima stop you right here libertarianism ≠ anarcho-capitalism. Anarcho capitalism is a very extreme form of libertarianism where there is very very minimal government. literally anything goes in anarcho capitalism besides going against non aggression principle

"anarchism as a whole demands the dismantling of hierarchies and democratization of government"

anarchism is abolition of the state not democratization of government

allowing the accumulation of private capital and organizing society around capital means creating a hierarchy where the few people with capital would have dictatorial control

how would u prevent this from happening 🤔 a government maybe?

also wouldnt there still be hierarchys based on things like strength, endurance, brains 🤔

"I don't see how the two ideologies are compatible in any way other than including the word "anarchy" in the name"

Seems like u proved anarchism isn't possible tbh. You always will need a government to enforce leftist policy

anarcho-capitalism is "anarcho" in the sense that it wants as minimal govt possible

okay to get really semantic, anarchism is defined by an ideology opposed to unjust hierarchies. classic liberalism as based on the work of authors such as Adam Smith is defined by the literal definition you gave of anarcho capitalism.

you would need some form of organization in order to ensure everybody has an equal and unsuppressed voice in society and agency in the way they get to live their life. it's impossible to remove any semblance of government as any organization of society means agreeing to a form of governance and if that form of governance is truly democratic and can guarantee true democracy then it would not be an unjust hierarchy.

kinda weird semantic argument but i still don't see how the two ideologies are compatible ?

if you would need some form of government how is that anarchism?
anarchism is a stateless society

"i still dont see how they are compatible"
i dont know what else to say lol

i think "anarcho" anything is stupid

anarcho capitalism is a meme ideology because it has no material basis in reality and would collapse under the weight of itws own contradictions in like a week

anarchism means dismantling unjust hierarchies.

if you just strip the state government and get ruled by some weird private-feudal government it doesn't dismantle any unjust hierarchies.

and yea i don't really care what it's called i just care about the material conditions of people and how to make them better

anarchism is a stateless and classless society ask @Synopsis

stateless and classless doesn't mean there's absolutely no form of government and democracy it's not mutually exclusive

anarchism - is a meme ideology because it has no material basis in reality

how can you be stateless and have a form of government?

I think we need a lil socialism. Dont we already incorporate some in the US?

A state is a polity under a system of governance with a monopoly on force. There is no undisputed definition of a state.1 A widely used definition from the German sociologist Max Weber is that a "state" is a polity that maintains a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence, although other definitions are not uncommon.3 A state is not synonymous with a government as stateless governments like the Iroquois Confederacy exist.

here's what wiki says
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_(polity)

"The Iroquois Confederacy or Haudenosaunee is believed to have been founded by the Great Peacemaker at an unknown date, estimated to have been sometime between 1450 and 1660, bringing together five distinct nations in the southern Great Lakes area into "The Great League of Peace"."

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois#Iroquois_Confederacy

iroquois confederacy seems like smaller states that work together similar to the UK

i think the best is a mixed system/welfare state

Lol no