I'm biased but I'm for banning nicotine. S***s garbage.

exactly. just ban ALL of it lol

"If the government isn't going to pay for people's healthcare they really shouldn't have a say in whether people partake in unhealthy activities like smoking cigs."

TUH. And that's the bottom line. /thread

You will never have that as long as there is poverty, hunger, low education rates, homelessness etc. People use substances to fill other voids in their life, sometimes out of pure boredom.

No I don’t lol. Puff bars are still legal, why would someone sell fake puff bars? To people under 21?

I used to smoke Vuze (I think that’s what they were called), when their flavors were banned I just switched to puff bars or air bars lol. I assumed more people did that than bought fake ones lol

Heroin should be legal

A gas station by my house sells Rick and Morty disposable vapes and I know for a fact whoever made those did not get the licensing rights to those characters.

And that's just the more obvious side of counterfeit vapes

I actually saw those the other day too lmao. If they are in multiple stations across the country (unless you’re also in Louisiana), then they must be going through some legal avenues right?

Edit: just googled and saw a news report where customs confiscated 77,000 Rick and morty vapes due to copyright infringement. How they are selling those still is beyond me lol. But are they illegal? Like clearly it’s copyright infringement, but I wouldn’t think I could buy a product that’s illegal at a convenience store lmao

Real

I'm in Alabama. The place I saw them is a local convenience store. The lady who works at a Shell nearby told me some random guy just came in trying to sell them to her store too but the Shell turned him down

Now that you say that, I did hear about a convenience store down the road just buying vapes off some random lmao. That’s pretty sketchy. When I think of black market I don’t think of items that can be bought through legal, taxed channels. Interesting

like you said has a lot to do with discontinued flavors. i've seen a few tiktoks on my fyp that market sketchy websites that don't required id to appeal to high school kids with counterfeit juul and puff bars

They banned it in EU as well. It's an addictive problem. Not a racial problem.

Big tobacco spent an entire century targeting black people to get them to smoke and suddenly when the government steps in to stop it, it's racism

"Off the streets"

I wouldnt call this racist. Think it's just corporatism

Bruh I’m a recovered heroin addict and even I would never say heroin should be legal lmao

Wait they're banning backwoods

You were addicted to heroin and it was illegal, it didn’t prevent you from doing it. Should it be sold at convenience stores? No, it should be heavily regulated. But if it were legalized, 1) you would likely not be shooting it up, 2) you probably wouldn’t have done it to begin with, and 3) it would be regulated and ingredients would be known and safer (emphasizes on the “er” there)

Literally the only thing you were right about is point 3

why would legalizing a very addictive substance deter someone more than criminalizing it would

Wouldn’t necessarily deter them. It would keep it safer if regulated, there are safer ways to ingest but it’s cheaper to shoot it, and you would focus on rehabilitation instead of prison as the response for it

i don't understand your op, @op

With these actions, the FDA will help significantly reduce youth initiation, increase the chances of smoking cessation among current smokers, and address health disparities experienced by communities of color, low-income populations, and LGBTQ+ individuals, all of whom are far more likely to use these tobacco products

i dunno how you can read this and think it's bad, cus all of those things are reasonably projected to occur with a ban and all of those things occuring would be good for people in many ways except for "won't allow me to experience quick pleasure via a menthol cig anymore"

also the suggestion is confusing. why would a ban (causing people to not use the thing anymore) be racial yet remedying the underlying causes that lead to someone's desire to use menthol cigs (causing people to not use the thing anymore) would not be racial? i'm not saying both are racial, i'm sayin i don't get how either are racial. both lead to the same thing. one of the options just takes a lot more years to do

Because until government fully pays for healthcare, America shouldnt have to ban things that are actively helping the racial groups cope.

u said he prolly wouldn't have done it to begin w/, so that was my response to that

i think the things you say there could be true, but 1 isn't shooting it far more pleasurable than other methods? that's my intuition, but i dunno the fax. 2 i rly do think legalizing it would introduce more people to it rather than deter them or keep the # of users neutral