Fk the guillotine, bring back the Khan horse executions like the Mongol empire.
AHHH LORD GENGHIS NO PLEASE IT WASNT ME I BEG OF Y-
This is why I don’t support it. The number is something like 1 in 25 death row convictions are found to to innocent. I don’t trust the government with numbers like that.
Which is a reasonable view to have
Personally i don't agree with abolishing it but it needs serious reform and only reserved for the worst of the worst
Which is a reasonable view to have
Personally i don't agree with abolishing it but it needs serious reform and only reserved for the worst of the worst
Yeah I don’t think either side of the issue is an insane position to have but people that think these cases are super cut and dry aren’t fully informed on how the process works
The death penalty doesn't deter murderers
It's not supposed to. It's supposed to save resources by ridding society of the worst of the worst.
But i do agree that mistakes can and do happen which is why there needs to be substantial evidence beyond a reasonable doubt before sentencing someone to death
But if you're on video murdering a bunch of people then you need to die lmao. Why do i gotta pay taxes to keep you wined and dined.
When you really think about it,I imagine this bill is being passed to not only speed up the process for this kinda thing but to also avoid giving the media and people time to try and humanize these terrible people and reminisce on terrible events the families or victims will forever grieve from. There’s to much time and room for glamour when it comes to the lethal injection way.
It’s best to just get on with it and do it as efficiently as possible
I think the conversation of whether life imprisonment as opposed to death is a crueler punishment isn’t the right debate to have. It’s whether executing the sickest people is really worth it when we know innocent people somewhere else will be killed by the same process.
The death penalty doesn't deter murderers
It's not supposed to. It's supposed to save resources by ridding society of the worst of the worst.
But i do agree that mistakes can and do happen which is why there needs to be substantial evidence beyond a reasonable doubt before sentencing someone to death
But if you're on video murdering a bunch of people then you need to die lmao. Why do i gotta pay taxes to keep you wined and dined.
The point of punishment in any form is deterrence. It doesn't save resources and is actually more expensive than non-death penalties:
A 2003 legislative audit in Kansas found that the estimated cost of a death penalty case was 70% more than the cost of a comparable non-death penalty case
In Tennessee, death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment.
In Maryland death penalty cases cost 3 times more than non-death penalty cases, or $3 million for a single case.
In California the current system costs $137 million per year; it would cost $11.5 million for a system without the death penalty.
source: amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost
The point of punishment in any form is deterrence. It doesn't save resources and is actually more expensive than non-death penalties:
A 2003 legislative audit in Kansas found that the estimated cost of a death penalty case was 70% more than the cost of a comparable non-death penalty case
In Tennessee, death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment.
In Maryland death penalty cases cost 3 times more than non-death penalty cases, or $3 million for a single case.
In California the current system costs $137 million per year; it would cost $11.5 million for a system without the death penalty.
source: https://www.amnestyusa.org/issues/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/
Prison in many places is for rehabilitation and many people are advocating for prison to be more reformative in the USA. Some crimes you just can't reform from. If the evidence is clear cut like Dylan Roof and other crazy s*** like that than take them out back.
Prison in many places is for rehabilitation and many people are advocating for prison to be more reformative in the USA. Some crimes you just can't reform from. If the evidence is clear cut like Dylan Roof and other crazy s*** like that than take them out back.
The large majority of American prisons are definitely not rehabilitative. There's lots of data out there that indicates that many offenders are likely to re-offend and be sent to prison in the near future. Many released prisoners find it incredibly difficult to rejoin society and end up back where they started. Rehabilitation programs in prisons are also heavily underfunded or outright cut. Anecdotally I've worked with recent offenders and have seen it happen first hand.
F*** Dylan Roof and anyone like him for sure but how do you ensure that the evidence is clear cut? The reason the death penalty is so expensive is because so much time and resources are put into making sure that death is what that person deserves.
If you personally killed someone that raped and murdered your family, I wouldn’t be mad at that. It’s justified under your own moral compass, even if that conflicts with the law
I just don’t think the government deserves the right to decide on someone’s life
So vengeance delivered by the victim is perfectly fine, but vengeance delivered by government mandated procedure on behalf of the victim is not? What if the victim wants them to die, but doesn't have the stomach to do it themselves?
Always thought this would be a good idea especially in America. Let people sign up for this s*** with first dibs going to people directly affected by whatever the criminal did
Could maybe satiate some of the sickos out there and reduce random and mass shootings?
So vengeance delivered by the victim is perfectly fine, but vengeance delivered by government mandated procedure on behalf of the victim is not? What if the victim wants them to die, but doesn't have the stomach to do it themselves?
yes
and if you don’t have the stomach to kill someone then don’t
Fk the guillotine, bring back the Khan horse executions like the Mongol empire.
AHHH LORD GENGHIS NO PLEASE IT WASNT ME I BEG OF Y-
I AM A MONGOLOID
Fk the guillotine, bring back the Khan horse executions like the Mongol empire.
AHHH LORD GENGHIS NO PLEASE IT WASNT ME I BEG OF Y-
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Fk the guillotine, bring back the Khan horse executions like the Mongol empire.
AHHH LORD GENGHIS NO PLEASE IT WASNT ME I BEG OF Y-
HOWLING
I AM A MONGOLOID
MY F***ING GOD Bless bro’s heart, it was in the right place but the Mongols literally did everything he accused western civs of doing too
Also the Mongolian throat singing. Holy s*** Arcade share some more vids with us like that lmao
Fk the guillotine, bring back the Khan horse executions like the Mongol empire.
AHHH LORD GENGHIS NO PLEASE IT WASNT ME I BEG OF Y-
So if there is clear evidence someone was a mass murderer what should their sentence be?
Prison for life. Easy. Maybe some rehabilitation so they can become productive members of society again inside prison giving guidance.
Death penalties have never moved or waivered dangerous criminals.
So vengeance delivered by the victim is perfectly fine, but vengeance delivered by government mandated procedure on behalf of the victim is not? What if the victim wants them to die, but doesn't have the stomach to do it themselves?
You know what. I think that's fair. Only the victim's family or victim can have absolute right to give out capital punishment. If they can't do it, then just life in prison is fine.