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  • god bless me bc im going to hell

  • Apr 25
    1 reply
    vladimirx boofin

    god bless me bc im going to hell

    why

  • Wizzling 馃
    Apr 25
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    lmaoo just heard of em never read anything of him post thoughts of his ideas in the thread while reading him id love read em

  • Apr 25
    1 reply

    I did this recently

    Just be careful and read with an extremely critical eye

  • Apr 25
    3 replies
    MyBallsAndMyWord

    I did this recently

    Just be careful and read with an extremely critical eye

    u my nigga fr bro im glad ur in this thread

    im brushing up on my deleuze and guttari b4 i get into the thirst for annihilation

    ive really been inspired in my creative process to start watching stuff that challenges me, so im tryna apply that to philosophy

    but its hard tho when ur black and ur like "why would i ever read some s*** that wants to deny my humanity"

    i guess what im saying is, do u think he's worth reading, knowing that he eventually gets very alt righty

  • nonviolence

    why

    seems like a smart guy who got way too into a thousand plateau's and started writing about it before he understood it, which is like me so i guess thats scary to think about s*** idk im stupid as f***

  • Apr 25
    2 replies
    Wizzling

    lmaoo just heard of em never read anything of him post thoughts of his ideas in the thread while reading him id love read em

    "...the sacred substance amphetamine...After perhaps a year of fanatical abuse it (Nick referring to himself in a completely dehumanized way) was, by any reasonable standard, profoundly insane...On one occasion...a car being driven by the sister of its thing (the ruin). It was night, on a motorway. The journey took several hours. During the previous night, Christmas Eve, it had followed its usual course into fanatically prolonged artificial insomnia. It had spent the time devoted to futile 'writing' practices - it still pretended to be 'getting somewhere' and was buoyant with ardent purpose...It was accompanied to the early hours by a repetitive refrain 'from next door' - a mediocre but plausible rock song whose insistent lyric circled around the words: "Going to hell." ... In the car it listened to the radio for the whole journey. Each song was different, the genres varied, the quality seemingly above average, the themes tending to the morbid. "This is a cool radio station," it said to its sister. "The radio isn't on," its sister replied, concerned. Vauung learnt that the ruin's unconscious contained an entire pop industry...Nothing more was said about it. Why upset your family?"

  • Apr 25
    1 reply
    vladimirx boofin

    u my nigga fr bro im glad ur in this thread

    im brushing up on my deleuze and guttari b4 i get into the thirst for annihilation

    ive really been inspired in my creative process to start watching stuff that challenges me, so im tryna apply that to philosophy

    but its hard tho when ur black and ur like "why would i ever read some s*** that wants to deny my humanity"

    i guess what im saying is, do u think he's worth reading, knowing that he eventually gets very alt righty

    Yeah, that鈥檚 what I was trying to do as well. Been doing a pretty deep dive into accelerationism lately

    Nick Land is overall deplorable but he does make some good points about certain topics at times

    I found this to be pretty interesting and have been thinking about it a lot lately. Think there鈥檚 a lot of implications for how we think about political organizing that we need to grapple with

    jacobitemag.com/2017/06/06/atomization

  • Wizzling 馃
    Apr 25
    1 reply
    vladimirx boofin

    u my nigga fr bro im glad ur in this thread

    im brushing up on my deleuze and guttari b4 i get into the thirst for annihilation

    ive really been inspired in my creative process to start watching stuff that challenges me, so im tryna apply that to philosophy

    but its hard tho when ur black and ur like "why would i ever read some s*** that wants to deny my humanity"

    i guess what im saying is, do u think he's worth reading, knowing that he eventually gets very alt righty

    lmao try to get in d&g as well before but i couldn鈥檛 get past 10 pages i tried 1000 plateaus i think

  • Apr 25
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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    Yeah, that鈥檚 what I was trying to do as well. Been doing a pretty deep dive into accelerationism lately

    Nick Land is overall deplorable but he does make some good points about certain topics at times

    I found this to be pretty interesting and have been thinking about it a lot lately. Think there鈥檚 a lot of implications for how we think about political organizing that we need to grapple with

    https://jacobitemag.com/2017/06/06/atomization/

    this why i stay on ktt2 fr

  • Apr 25
    1 reply
    Wizzling

    lmao try to get in d&g as well before but i couldn鈥檛 get past 10 pages i tried 1000 plateaus i think

    yea they're hard as f*** but its hard as f***

    if u get what i mean

    still tryna wrap my head around what exactly body without organs means

  • Wizzling 馃
    Apr 25
    2 replies

    also never knew he had d&g roots

  • Apr 25
    2 replies
    vladimirx boofin

    this why i stay on ktt2 fr

    I also think it鈥檚 important to read Nick Land and grasp the nonsense he鈥檚 promoting because his brand of fascism is really the brand of choice for a lot of Silicon Valley tech bros. Who as you know have a lot of influence and money in all the right places. I think he鈥檚 thought is going to become increasingly influential and will serve as a road map for modern reactionary movements. It鈥檚 a reason Steve Bannon loves s*** like Land and Mencius Moldbug.

    Think we gotta understand this stuff if we want to combat it in the coming years

  • Apr 25
    1 reply
    Wizzling

    also never knew he had d&g roots

    p sure that's like his main source of influence tbh, from the little i know of him :

  • Wizzling

    also never knew he had d&g roots

    Yep one of many reasons D&G is WOAT

    that being said I think their concepts of deterritorialization/re-territorialization are very interesting and useful, and it is vital for leftists in the 21st century (particularly in the first world) to understand them

  • Wizzling 馃
    Apr 25
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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    I also think it鈥檚 important to read Nick Land and grasp the nonsense he鈥檚 promoting because his brand of fascism is really the brand of choice for a lot of Silicon Valley tech bros. Who as you know have a lot of influence and money in all the right places. I think he鈥檚 thought is going to become increasingly influential and will serve as a road map for modern reactionary movements. It鈥檚 a reason Steve Bannon loves s*** like Land and Mencius Moldbug.

    Think we gotta understand this stuff if we want to combat it in the coming years

    off topic but just gonna ask since u seem to know a lot about maoism and post modernism

    have u ever read this ?
    bannedthought.net/India/PeoplesMarch/PM1999-2006/publications/post-modernism/contents.htm

    if u did i just want ur takes on since i don鈥檛 have a good grasp of post modernism so i don鈥檛 understand the criticism as much

  • Apr 25
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  • Apr 25
    1 reply
    vladimirx boofin

    p sure that's like his main source of influence tbh, from the little i know of him :

    D&G, Nietzsche, Kant, CCP post Mao, and Capital 3 Marx

    Very heady ideological cocktail

  • Apr 25
    1 reply
    Wizzling

    off topic but just gonna ask since u seem to know a lot about maoism and post modernism

    have u ever read this ?
    https://www.bannedthought.net/India/PeoplesMarch/PM1999-2006/publications/post-modernism/contents.htm

    if u did i just want ur takes on since i don鈥檛 have a good grasp of post modernism so i don鈥檛 understand the criticism as much

    Yep I have a hard copy of this actually. It鈥檚 really great Altho there are times poor translation does weaken some of his arguments, and I think at times he kinda attacks a bit too surface level understanding of some of the authors he鈥檚 criticizing. Overall tho I highly recommend it

  • Wizzling 馃
    Apr 25
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    MyBallsAndMyWord

    D&G, Nietzsche, Kant, CCP post Mao, and Capital 3 Marx

    Very heady ideological cocktail

    hmm how would u describe the ideology of CCP post mao

  • ARCADE GOON

    "...the sacred substance amphetamine...After perhaps a year of fanatical abuse it (Nick referring to himself in a completely dehumanized way) was, by any reasonable standard, profoundly insane...On one occasion...a car being driven by the sister of its thing (the ruin). It was night, on a motorway. The journey took several hours. During the previous night, Christmas Eve, it had followed its usual course into fanatically prolonged artificial insomnia. It had spent the time devoted to futile 'writing' practices - it still pretended to be 'getting somewhere' and was buoyant with ardent purpose...It was accompanied to the early hours by a repetitive refrain 'from next door' - a mediocre but plausible rock song whose insistent lyric circled around the words: "Going to hell." ... In the car it listened to the radio for the whole journey. Each song was different, the genres varied, the quality seemingly above average, the themes tending to the morbid. "This is a cool radio station," it said to its sister. "The radio isn't on," its sister replied, concerned. Vauung learnt that the ruin's unconscious contained an entire pop industry...Nothing more was said about it. Why upset your family?"

    ok this hard

  • Apr 25
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    Wizzling

    hmm how would u describe the ideology of CCP post mao

    I mean I think you know my response to this lol and I don鈥檛 wanna get into with the more orthodox MLs on this site rn

    Let鈥檚 just say a lot of the things I have problems with the CCP for is what Nick Land venerates

  • Wizzling 馃
    Apr 25
    1 reply
    MyBallsAndMyWord

    I mean I think you know my response to this lol and I don鈥檛 wanna get into with the more orthodox MLs on this site rn

    Let鈥檚 just say a lot of the things I have problems with the CCP for is what Nick Land venerates

    oh yeah i know and i鈥檇 agree with you on em but i was just more curious about their philosophical roots like who they inspired by nowadays

  • Wizzling

    oh yeah i know and i鈥檇 agree with you on em but i was just more curious about their philosophical roots like who they inspired by nowadays

    That is a great question that I would also like more info on

    Besides the obvious answer Deng and other rightists during that time, I鈥檓 not really sure. I鈥檓 not sure how familiar they are/were with revisionist progenitors like Bernstein and Kautsky tbh. I imagine Khrushchev is a big influence, and some of Lenin鈥檚 writings around the NEP

  • Apr 25
    ARCADE GOON

    "...the sacred substance amphetamine...After perhaps a year of fanatical abuse it (Nick referring to himself in a completely dehumanized way) was, by any reasonable standard, profoundly insane...On one occasion...a car being driven by the sister of its thing (the ruin). It was night, on a motorway. The journey took several hours. During the previous night, Christmas Eve, it had followed its usual course into fanatically prolonged artificial insomnia. It had spent the time devoted to futile 'writing' practices - it still pretended to be 'getting somewhere' and was buoyant with ardent purpose...It was accompanied to the early hours by a repetitive refrain 'from next door' - a mediocre but plausible rock song whose insistent lyric circled around the words: "Going to hell." ... In the car it listened to the radio for the whole journey. Each song was different, the genres varied, the quality seemingly above average, the themes tending to the morbid. "This is a cool radio station," it said to its sister. "The radio isn't on," its sister replied, concerned. Vauung learnt that the ruin's unconscious contained an entire pop industry...Nothing more was said about it. Why upset your family?"