lmaoo just heard of em never read anything of him post thoughts of his ideas in the thread while reading him id love read em
I did this recently
Just be careful and read with an extremely critical eye
u my nigga fr bro im glad ur in this thread
im brushing up on my deleuze and guttari b4 i get into the thirst for annihilation
ive really been inspired in my creative process to start watching stuff that challenges me, so im tryna apply that to philosophy
but its hard tho when ur black and ur like "why would i ever read some s*** that wants to deny my humanity"
i guess what im saying is, do u think he's worth reading, knowing that he eventually gets very alt righty
why
seems like a smart guy who got way too into a thousand plateau's and started writing about it before he understood it, which is like me so i guess thats scary to think about s*** idk im stupid as f***
lmaoo just heard of em never read anything of him post thoughts of his ideas in the thread while reading him id love read em
"...the sacred substance amphetamine...After perhaps a year of fanatical abuse it (Nick referring to himself in a completely dehumanized way) was, by any reasonable standard, profoundly insane...On one occasion...a car being driven by the sister of its thing (the ruin). It was night, on a motorway. The journey took several hours. During the previous night, Christmas Eve, it had followed its usual course into fanatically prolonged artificial insomnia. It had spent the time devoted to futile 'writing' practices - it still pretended to be 'getting somewhere' and was buoyant with ardent purpose...It was accompanied to the early hours by a repetitive refrain 'from next door' - a mediocre but plausible rock song whose insistent lyric circled around the words: "Going to hell." ... In the car it listened to the radio for the whole journey. Each song was different, the genres varied, the quality seemingly above average, the themes tending to the morbid. "This is a cool radio station," it said to its sister. "The radio isn't on," its sister replied, concerned. Vauung learnt that the ruin's unconscious contained an entire pop industry...Nothing more was said about it. Why upset your family?"
u my nigga fr bro im glad ur in this thread
im brushing up on my deleuze and guttari b4 i get into the thirst for annihilation
ive really been inspired in my creative process to start watching stuff that challenges me, so im tryna apply that to philosophy
but its hard tho when ur black and ur like "why would i ever read some s*** that wants to deny my humanity"
i guess what im saying is, do u think he's worth reading, knowing that he eventually gets very alt righty
Yeah, that’s what I was trying to do as well. Been doing a pretty deep dive into accelerationism lately
Nick Land is overall deplorable but he does make some good points about certain topics at times
I found this to be pretty interesting and have been thinking about it a lot lately. Think there’s a lot of implications for how we think about political organizing that we need to grapple with
u my nigga fr bro im glad ur in this thread
im brushing up on my deleuze and guttari b4 i get into the thirst for annihilation
ive really been inspired in my creative process to start watching stuff that challenges me, so im tryna apply that to philosophy
but its hard tho when ur black and ur like "why would i ever read some s*** that wants to deny my humanity"
i guess what im saying is, do u think he's worth reading, knowing that he eventually gets very alt righty
lmao try to get in d&g as well before but i couldn’t get past 10 pages i tried 1000 plateaus i think
Yeah, that’s what I was trying to do as well. Been doing a pretty deep dive into accelerationism lately
Nick Land is overall deplorable but he does make some good points about certain topics at times
I found this to be pretty interesting and have been thinking about it a lot lately. Think there’s a lot of implications for how we think about political organizing that we need to grapple with
https://jacobitemag.com/2017/06/06/atomization/
this why i stay on ktt2 fr
lmao try to get in d&g as well before but i couldn’t get past 10 pages i tried 1000 plateaus i think
yea they're hard as f*** but its hard as f***
if u get what i mean
still tryna wrap my head around what exactly body without organs means
this why i stay on ktt2 fr
I also think it’s important to read Nick Land and grasp the nonsense he’s promoting because his brand of fascism is really the brand of choice for a lot of Silicon Valley tech bros. Who as you know have a lot of influence and money in all the right places. I think he’s thought is going to become increasingly influential and will serve as a road map for modern reactionary movements. It’s a reason Steve Bannon loves s*** like Land and Mencius Moldbug.
Think we gotta understand this stuff if we want to combat it in the coming years
also never knew he had d&g roots
p sure that's like his main source of influence tbh, from the little i know of him :
also never knew he had d&g roots
Yep one of many reasons D&G is WOAT
that being said I think their concepts of deterritorialization/re-territorialization are very interesting and useful, and it is vital for leftists in the 21st century (particularly in the first world) to understand them
I also think it’s important to read Nick Land and grasp the nonsense he’s promoting because his brand of fascism is really the brand of choice for a lot of Silicon Valley tech bros. Who as you know have a lot of influence and money in all the right places. I think he’s thought is going to become increasingly influential and will serve as a road map for modern reactionary movements. It’s a reason Steve Bannon loves s*** like Land and Mencius Moldbug.
Think we gotta understand this stuff if we want to combat it in the coming years
off topic but just gonna ask since u seem to know a lot about maoism and post modernism
have u ever read this ?
bannedthought.net/India/PeoplesMarch/PM1999-2006/publications/post-modernism/contents.htm
if u did i just want ur takes on since i don’t have a good grasp of post modernism so i don’t understand the criticism as much
p sure that's like his main source of influence tbh, from the little i know of him :
D&G, Nietzsche, Kant, CCP post Mao, and Capital 3 Marx
Very heady ideological cocktail
off topic but just gonna ask since u seem to know a lot about maoism and post modernism
have u ever read this ?
https://www.bannedthought.net/India/PeoplesMarch/PM1999-2006/publications/post-modernism/contents.htm
if u did i just want ur takes on since i don’t have a good grasp of post modernism so i don’t understand the criticism as much
Yep I have a hard copy of this actually. It’s really great Altho there are times poor translation does weaken some of his arguments, and I think at times he kinda attacks a bit too surface level understanding of some of the authors he’s criticizing. Overall tho I highly recommend it
D&G, Nietzsche, Kant, CCP post Mao, and Capital 3 Marx
Very heady ideological cocktail
hmm how would u describe the ideology of CCP post mao
"...the sacred substance amphetamine...After perhaps a year of fanatical abuse it (Nick referring to himself in a completely dehumanized way) was, by any reasonable standard, profoundly insane...On one occasion...a car being driven by the sister of its thing (the ruin). It was night, on a motorway. The journey took several hours. During the previous night, Christmas Eve, it had followed its usual course into fanatically prolonged artificial insomnia. It had spent the time devoted to futile 'writing' practices - it still pretended to be 'getting somewhere' and was buoyant with ardent purpose...It was accompanied to the early hours by a repetitive refrain 'from next door' - a mediocre but plausible rock song whose insistent lyric circled around the words: "Going to hell." ... In the car it listened to the radio for the whole journey. Each song was different, the genres varied, the quality seemingly above average, the themes tending to the morbid. "This is a cool radio station," it said to its sister. "The radio isn't on," its sister replied, concerned. Vauung learnt that the ruin's unconscious contained an entire pop industry...Nothing more was said about it. Why upset your family?"
ok this hard
hmm how would u describe the ideology of CCP post mao
I mean I think you know my response to this lol and I don’t wanna get into with the more orthodox MLs on this site rn
Let’s just say a lot of the things I have problems with the CCP for is what Nick Land venerates
I mean I think you know my response to this lol and I don’t wanna get into with the more orthodox MLs on this site rn
Let’s just say a lot of the things I have problems with the CCP for is what Nick Land venerates
oh yeah i know and i’d agree with you on em but i was just more curious about their philosophical roots like who they inspired by nowadays
oh yeah i know and i’d agree with you on em but i was just more curious about their philosophical roots like who they inspired by nowadays
That is a great question that I would also like more info on
Besides the obvious answer Deng and other rightists during that time, I’m not really sure. I’m not sure how familiar they are/were with revisionist progenitors like Bernstein and Kautsky tbh. I imagine Khrushchev is a big influence, and some of Lenin’s writings around the NEP
"...the sacred substance amphetamine...After perhaps a year of fanatical abuse it (Nick referring to himself in a completely dehumanized way) was, by any reasonable standard, profoundly insane...On one occasion...a car being driven by the sister of its thing (the ruin). It was night, on a motorway. The journey took several hours. During the previous night, Christmas Eve, it had followed its usual course into fanatically prolonged artificial insomnia. It had spent the time devoted to futile 'writing' practices - it still pretended to be 'getting somewhere' and was buoyant with ardent purpose...It was accompanied to the early hours by a repetitive refrain 'from next door' - a mediocre but plausible rock song whose insistent lyric circled around the words: "Going to hell." ... In the car it listened to the radio for the whole journey. Each song was different, the genres varied, the quality seemingly above average, the themes tending to the morbid. "This is a cool radio station," it said to its sister. "The radio isn't on," its sister replied, concerned. Vauung learnt that the ruin's unconscious contained an entire pop industry...Nothing more was said about it. Why upset your family?"