i bet he'll find some nice coffee shops out there

Social dancing is GOATed tbh, in fact that’s where I met the women I’m currently dating

The "friendzone" is very real and it's difficult to transition to something more once she views you as a friend. Trust me, I've been there plenty of times. Far easier to just go for it rather than doing the whole friends thing. Women find men who are assertive and make their intentions clear attractive. What kind of message does it send if you're trying to be her friend when you want something more?

Your advice is telling OP to befriend women so he can maybe date them. I'm telling you that your advice doesn't work, dafuq you getting all pretentious and high and mighty for when that's the f***ing advice you giving

No, OP says he "hooks up" with women. I'm telling him to maybe form a real social connection with one of them.

Being a woman's "friend" is only a "zone" if you're an "loser" or someone who wants to f*** people you don't even like. Again, grow up

You don’t need people bruh

OP never said s*** about hooking up with women You don't know wtf you're talking about. Was clear from the advice you're giving but imagining KTT posts just confirms it

If you don’t believe the friendzone exists then I got a bridge to sell you

Amen brother. Not social dancing but I met my wife in a ballet class. It's always like my number one recommendation lmaooo

The only reason men get put in the friendzone is because they put women in the f***zone to begin with.

I already touched on that and nor did i say it doeslol and its still more than most adults and it literally shows he is not a "recluse" he boxed himself in.

He is literally going out every week with others and by himself.

That is not reclusive and even some ways not even introvert.

Its a complete contradiction and shows it is not as bad as he makes it out for himself.

Hence the "get out of your own head and get out of your own way" sentiments.

I even touched on family which something he doesnt mention at all.

And also lol a romantic relationship isnt a cure all either - there are many people in relationships that are also unhappy and "lonely" as well.

There is no magic cure and looking for one is also self destructive.

But the facts are he does have people in his life and he does go out and do things - so he is definitely not a reclusive and at the very least his loneliness isnt as bad as he made himself believe.

He sounds like he is his own worst enemy that is preventing himself from putting his self out there more and also exagerrating his situations/self in his head which then becomes a repeated self cycle of a stagnation loop.

Hence my worst case scenario and putting your 50 out there.

I literally touched on everything and gave advice. Im just also being realistic & breaking the situation down with the parts I was given. He is far from a recluse and he is not lonely in the literal sense. If you want more, you actually have opportunities to put yourself out there. He is not rockbottom and actually has chances, which is a good thing. But og course as I said - nothing will happen if you literally do nothing. Which is also true in general.

No one will magically fill any role. Its you that will. And this op in particular seems to have the means (again, agood thing), he just has to act on it and put himself more out there. Easier said than done no s***, but at least its a viable & hopeful course of action when he is ready & able.

Feel like I’m very lucky to meet her, in fact she was the one to make the first move

She’s a beautiful, smart, and ambitious woman who happened to choose me. Always struggled with dating and oh boy, feeling blessed is an understatement

not really

Man I feel that! The love of a good woman is incredible

Facts

People get so stuck on labels and in their head such as "recluse" and "inteovert" that they petrified themselves from doing anything before they even started or try. Even if those labels dont even fit them.

Never forget that ones self can also be an enemy. In many ways.

All humans do this. It's Freud's Eros drive. We all meet people we consider attractive, would f***, would date etc. The actual term "friendzone" and it's popularity might be because of this but it's not really fair to put the concept itself on men imo

Don’t think you need more hobbies. Those sound great. If you’re down to push yourself a bit, you could see if your city has a running club. There’s one where I’m at that is really popular. Maybe join a men’s basketball rec team if you have the time.

Just throwing out things you could do that you already enjoy that could take some social pressure off of you. Clubs and teams allow you to talk about or do the thing you’re already passionate about/enjoy with other people that you already know are also passionate about/enjoy it. Makes convos easier because you have a huge common interest.

Also, a lot people don’t hang with friends as often or see their friend circle get smaller as they get older. If you’re seeing friends weekly or even monthly, that’s more than a lot of people.

@westside any suggestions on hobbies to explore? don't really have any idea on what to explore. besides exercising, I don't do anything else lol

what exactly yall mean by social dancing

like clubbing ..?

Get out of your comfort zone.
Seriously stop being a lil b**** and be a grown man or woman. Take ownership for ya situation and improve it. DO IT NIGGA

in the same situation
it's over for us

Nope it's more like salsa or country dancing

Women that don’t like them*

99% of women are automatically put in the “fuckzone” to at least one man so that’s not comparable

If you don’t have anything that you really love doing, I’d say just try to pick up anything you have any sort of interest in.

Like I’m really into basketball and music. Moved to a new side of town and been going to the gym to hoop regularly for the first time in forever and now there are a bunch of people that I know at the gym. Even see some of them when I’m just out at the store something. Planning on joining a rec league within the year.

Been wanting to get into DJing, so planning on going to some classes for that, then see if there’s a group around here for people into it.

Just try to find places you can be at where you’re doing something you enjoy. You could join a fitness or weightlifting club if you really feel like you don’t have anything else you’re interested in.