Oct 10, 2020·2 replies
EuroNymous@op is speaking facts, my friend actually found hidden ny quite early on probs had around 5 to 10k followers and it was dope for little but man his content has taken nose dive with actual trash
i took break from really following fashion for most part in 2020 for multiple reasons but really the main reason was because i became very disillusioned with it and how materialistic its became no reason that every jordan 1 high should go 100s over retail
i am going to find new job for Christmas period and probs blow some money clothes but gonna mostly like just thrift & buy couple designer garments i been curious in getting
I haven't really fleshed out my ideas but i feel like fashion is inherently materialistic and that this was bound to happen.
The internet esp forums like ktt, reddit ect have democratized information to the point your average kid from the suburbs can consume fashion.
Now that this is bigger than ever and everyone wants to look like their favorite rapper, its only inevitable that this would happen.
Oct 10, 2020·2 repliespancakesI haven't really fleshed out my ideas but i feel like fashion is inherently materialistic and that this was bound to happen.
The internet esp forums like ktt, reddit ect have democratized information to the point your average kid from the suburbs can consume fashion.
Now that this is bigger than ever and everyone wants to look like their favorite rapper, its only inevitable that this would happen.i agree with your points. also at the end of the day, blame the companies for allowing exclusivity by limiting product amount
- Oct 10, 2020leanhead
i agree with your points. also at the end of the day, blame the companies for allowing exclusivity by limiting product amount
yep. its just a bad combo of internet, teenaged insecurities, and corporate greed. almost all of those have existed forever
Oct 10, 2020·3 repliesleanheadi agree with your points. also at the end of the day, blame the companies for allowing exclusivity by limiting product amount
yeah f*** aime leon dore.
purposely making products exclusive is dumb as s***. they do it just to hype up their own brand
that goes for all, they just affected me the most recent
Oct 10, 2020·2 replies
hoodbya1ryooo -- solid vid. Really enjoyed the watch/edits. I used to work at HYPEBEAST mag for a 3+ year stretch and left for the reasons you described. The scene's gotten weird and it's touched everything that I care about as it pertains to "culture." Idk even the seeding plays speak to the pro capitalist mentality from same folks who are understood as getting it from the mud and living the authentic version of this lifestyle. I bring up seeding because I view it as the most simplest, controlled, personal way to reach your intended audience pre drop. I've been keeping tabs on Salehe's/NB's moves with their upcoming shoe. I believe John Mayer set it off, next thing I know I'm reading Footwear News article about Addison Rae pulling up with the kicks and skateboard lol. Idk it's transitioned to a weird space. I'm getting Netflix ads for this insane sneaker head show lol. A lot is wrong vs what's good, which makes me feel for those who didn't experience "the golden years." I'll cut myself here: vid resonated with me, good stuff.
What is seeding?
- Oct 10, 2020·1 replyrami
yeah f*** aime leon dore.
purposely making products exclusive is dumb as s***. they do it just to hype up their own brand
that goes for all, they just affected me the most recent
lol f*** em, i want one of their fitteds but f***ing stockx has everyone buying for resale
- Oct 10, 2020·1 replyleanhead
lol f*** em, i want one of their fitteds but f***ing stockx has everyone buying for resale
yeah, like i f*** with their pieces, even though the prices are wild, but wtf was that release. s*** even acw with their converse and docs.
yo not to mention every f***ing nike drop that isn't even a collab? why are dunks so f***ing limited, like every shoe. they don't need to be permanent like af1s but if you want them on release you should be able to get them without stressin. i wouldn't be tight if s*** sold out after a few days or a week. you still wouldn't see everyone have em
- Oct 10, 2020stream evangelion
What is seeding?
things like sending out product to influencers paid or not is part of seeding. they hope by giving a certain group of people the product word of mouth with spread about the product
Oct 10, 2020ramiyeah, like i f*** with their pieces, even though the prices are wild, but wtf was that release. s*** even acw with their converse and docs.
yo not to mention every f***ing nike drop that isn't even a collab? why are dunks so f***ing limited, like every shoe. they don't need to be permanent like af1s but if you want them on release you should be able to get them without stressin. i wouldn't be tight if s*** sold out after a few days or a week. you still wouldn't see everyone have em
all these new simple dunk colorways that are catching resale values now would've been GRs that immediately hit outlets
that's the power of hype
like i can't even cop a pair of college themed dunks without paying out the ass
- Oct 10, 2020pancakes
I haven't really fleshed out my ideas but i feel like fashion is inherently materialistic and that this was bound to happen.
The internet esp forums like ktt, reddit ect have democratized information to the point your average kid from the suburbs can consume fashion.
Now that this is bigger than ever and everyone wants to look like their favorite rapper, its only inevitable that this would happen.It’s inherently materialistic however I rather support designers or smaller street wear brands which actually put time and effort into their brand instead of just wearing huge logos or kids wearing like op pointed out malcom x quotes or public enemy because it’s clouted
- Oct 10, 2020·1 replystream evangelion
What is seeding?
Seeding is when a designer gifts his inner circle, nowadays more so public facing celebrities upcoming product prior to official launch. For a collaborative effort with a brand, it could also be the brand's PR team essentially planting product with "influencers"/"taste makers" to drive overall awareness/hype. Slick move for more visibility.
- Oct 10, 2020·1 replyhoodbya1r
Seeding is when a designer gifts his inner circle, nowadays more so public facing celebrities upcoming product prior to official launch. For a collaborative effort with a brand, it could also be the brand's PR team essentially planting product with "influencers"/"taste makers" to drive overall awareness/hype. Slick move for more visibility.
im sure this is what happened with the ALD NB shoes
they made an absurdly low amount of stock for the hype around it to create an artificial market
- Oct 10, 2020·editednecromancer
im sure this is what happened with the ALD NB shoes
they made an absurdly low amount of stock for the hype around it to create an artificial market
Nahh I actually don't think so -- we're just seeing ALD "stock" rise in real time. I wouldn't go as far as saying Teddy is on the same track we've seen Ronnie take with Kith, but I believe it'll eventually land in the same destination more or less. Teddy is a lot more focused at this stage; he's refined the aesthetic and is locked in. We'll see where he lands in the coming years -- maybe runway? lol
The other factor is NB's relevance at the moment. NB's been going hard with the collabs, consistently dropping heat the last 2+ years. Pair that with the wave we're seeing as every basic jaunt/IG model/"blogger"/"stylish" white chick has transitioned from white AF1 to NB's lol. "Cozy 2.0" + NB basketball/Kawhi linkup, Anthony Davis/LBJ been rocking ALD during the bubble etc. It's all eyes on NB imo.
I was lucky(?) to score a pair of NB P550's so this may be rather biased based on my experience with the raffle. At least* they have that hoop, where normal folks like me have a "chance" to hit. There's simply a growing market for ALD as they hit their stride, and people are just catching on. It's funny if you go on their reddit and cycle through their community's post; it's sad to see, but it was bound to happen.
ALD also has a very active/passionate consumer base, and they reward them. If you drop enough $$, you are guaranteed first dibs (in this case I believe all ALD "VIPS" scored kicks), and I think all newsletter emails got an early link*...obviously putting the real fans first vs reseller market/bot casuals trying to make a buck off the name. I can respect that.
Long story short is I wouldn't say purposefully "low stock" to create the facade of hype lol -- sounds more like self sabotage. Everyone ends up frustrated: OG fans/new fans alike. It's more-so ALD is piping up x Bella Hadid wears ALD x NB so her crowd follows suit. I think we can agree a range of 4 CW's for a collab is pretty substantial. Let's see how Salehe x NB fairs for a better idea.
Oct 10, 2020·1 replyGreat discussion in here
shouts to @disneyfrozen @hoodbya1r esp- Oct 10, 2020·1 replyVox
Great discussion in here
shouts to @disneyfrozen @hoodbya1r espNo doubt, just trying to spread the wisdom. I guess I'm lucky to be close to it all and see behind the scenes. Seen a lot over the last years, which the public isn't privy too. I naturally gravitate towards "lurker" vs "sharer," but the state of the "culture" is so bad right now, maybe it's time to switch it up and at least plant some seeds of truth for the next gen who're down to listen -- at least keep hope alive that things may swing back the other way down the road. I may not/probably won't accomplish this on a blog site but I'll chime in every now and then.
- Oct 10, 2020hoodbya1r
No doubt, just trying to spread the wisdom. I guess I'm lucky to be close to it all and see behind the scenes. Seen a lot over the last years, which the public isn't privy too. I naturally gravitate towards "lurker" vs "sharer," but the state of the "culture" is so bad right now, maybe it's time to switch it up and at least plant some seeds of truth for the next gen who're down to listen -- at least keep hope alive that things may swing back the other way down the road. I may not/probably won't accomplish this on a blog site but I'll chime in every now and then.
Word - would love to hear anything you'd have to say so hope to see you continue to pop up here
Oct 10, 2020·2 replieswhy you sound like you're about to cry while talking about streetwear lol
a lot of this comes across as you trying to gatekeep clothes which is kinda weird
Oct 10, 2020·1 replyStockx pretty much ruined everything if we are being completely honest. I’m def part of the problem though cause I flip stuff a lot but it’s mostly so I can buy other clothing I enjoy. At the end of the day I blame the trust fund hypebeasts for paying 2k for a shoe I’m def gonna continue to capitalize on them willingly spending that much lol
- Oct 10, 2020
Also resell culture as a whole is just insane, tblake (old sneaker YouTuber) has been reselling inflatable pools and outdoor space heaters. Imagine being a kid and not being able to get an inflatable pool for the summer because someone bought all the stock to resell, or a restaurant during a pandemic needing an outdoor heater as the weather cools down because seating is still limited due to covid. It’s so hard for the average consumer to buy anything for retail now (ex. Ps5’s and xbox’s reselling) all these “entrepreneurs” only care about money and it’s going way deeper than just clothes and fashion
Oct 10, 2020·1 replyFashion has always been fetishization and tastemaking. POC get money and clout from it. Producing and sharing culture is a good thing. Calling it appropriation is silly. Gentrification is when you and your culture are displaced physically. It's not when everybody wants to share it.
Now if you want to call out pretenders and posers, that's always been a thing too.
- Oct 10, 2020·3 repliesMango
Fashion has always been fetishization and tastemaking. POC get money and clout from it. Producing and sharing culture is a good thing. Calling it appropriation is silly. Gentrification is when you and your culture are displaced physically. It's not when everybody wants to share it.
Now if you want to call out pretenders and posers, that's always been a thing too.
Hmm I personally disagree, you wanna drop any examples/referenes to bolster your POV? Curious how/what made you come to the conclusions. You pointed to what I believe is the overarching issue that's distorted everything below "culture": the concept of "taste making" has either become diluted or shifted pending one's particular stance.
I guess prior to 2015, taste making was synonymous with trend setting -- embracing who you are regardless of status quo. Pharrell's the classic example: going against the grain of tall tees, Mitchell & Ness jerseys etc and introducing/sporting the polos, Japanese designers, high fashion etc. in a space where it was foreign for participants/community. At least in the sense of "being into that is not cool/gangsta so I can't take you serious." The motivation was never money/clout, that came after inspiring a movement. The energy was literally "I am other."
Overtime the perception of "taste making" has become more invested in wanting to be accepted by everyone regardless of whether you internally believe in whatever outward appearance you're presenting to the world. It's basically "choose your player" in real life, but the selection is only 3 lol. And it's fine being a chameleon. Same poses/styling/filter/"35 mm"/footwear etc etc. Spawning copy/paste clones who feel like in their own right they're "taste makers" because they've adopted the same cues that their idol has, who btw is everyone's "idol" lol, who btw, has their sets of "taste makers," behind the scenes who are actually*** POC tastemakers that they're siphoning from. Trust me on this. I think there's something wrong with that...bringing me to appropriation point.
On your point regarding appropriation: how would you describe Anna Wintour/Vogue Air Jordan collab? The same Anna Wintour who I promise you prior to 2018/whenever the collection dropped hadn't worn a pair of J's in her life lol. Or Kylie Jenner pulling up to a show in a du rag? I don't necessarily think sharing culture is a good thing. You share, and before you know it, it's gone. What do you have left when everyone looks/dresses/talks the same? We all should be able to contrive our distinct identities via the narrative of "this is my culture."
Unfortunately this gradual drift has dumbed down creative. Nowadays it's pretty much accepted/rewarded to simply run parallel with visible societal currents. I think prior to social media, designers didn't have the luxury of getting real time feedback. Buyers were pretty much their thermostat. That naiveness lends itself to more genuine creative: not necessarily fetishizing, and taste making is not guaranteed. There's an exciting risk with the prospect of introducing the next "it" item, and it could be anyone. Most importantly, it comes from you, so nobody can really duplicate it without looking crazy. Today, I think designers are relying more heavily on reacting to what they're seeing. This is why everything pretty much looks the same and the majority of the group move as a pack. "Somebody brings back crossbody bags and it takes off, following season market is flooded with crossbody bags."
- Oct 10, 2020·1 replyhoodbya1r
Hmm I personally disagree, you wanna drop any examples/referenes to bolster your POV? Curious how/what made you come to the conclusions. You pointed to what I believe is the overarching issue that's distorted everything below "culture": the concept of "taste making" has either become diluted or shifted pending one's particular stance.
I guess prior to 2015, taste making was synonymous with trend setting -- embracing who you are regardless of status quo. Pharrell's the classic example: going against the grain of tall tees, Mitchell & Ness jerseys etc and introducing/sporting the polos, Japanese designers, high fashion etc. in a space where it was foreign for participants/community. At least in the sense of "being into that is not cool/gangsta so I can't take you serious." The motivation was never money/clout, that came after inspiring a movement. The energy was literally "I am other."
Overtime the perception of "taste making" has become more invested in wanting to be accepted by everyone regardless of whether you internally believe in whatever outward appearance you're presenting to the world. It's basically "choose your player" in real life, but the selection is only 3 lol. And it's fine being a chameleon. Same poses/styling/filter/"35 mm"/footwear etc etc. Spawning copy/paste clones who feel like in their own right they're "taste makers" because they've adopted the same cues that their idol has, who btw is everyone's "idol" lol, who btw, has their sets of "taste makers," behind the scenes who are actually*** POC tastemakers that they're siphoning from. Trust me on this. I think there's something wrong with that...bringing me to appropriation point.
On your point regarding appropriation: how would you describe Anna Wintour/Vogue Air Jordan collab? The same Anna Wintour who I promise you prior to 2018/whenever the collection dropped hadn't worn a pair of J's in her life lol. Or Kylie Jenner pulling up to a show in a du rag? I don't necessarily think sharing culture is a good thing. You share, and before you know it, it's gone. What do you have left when everyone looks/dresses/talks the same? We all should be able to contrive our distinct identities via the narrative of "this is my culture."
Unfortunately this gradual drift has dumbed down creative. Nowadays it's pretty much accepted/rewarded to simply run parallel with visible societal currents. I think prior to social media, designers didn't have the luxury of getting real time feedback. Buyers were pretty much their thermostat. That naiveness lends itself to more genuine creative: not necessarily fetishizing, and taste making is not guaranteed. There's an exciting risk with the prospect of introducing the next "it" item, and it could be anyone. Most importantly, it comes from you, so nobody can really duplicate it without looking crazy. Today, I think designers are relying more heavily on reacting to what they're seeing. This is why everything pretty much looks the same and the majority of the group move as a pack. "Somebody brings back crossbody bags and it takes off, following season market is flooded with crossbody bags."
talk that talk - Oct 10, 2020·1 replytbw talk that talk
Teaching right now
- Oct 10, 2020Vox
Teaching right now
He said u reach i teach😭
Oct 11, 2020hoodbya1rHmm I personally disagree, you wanna drop any examples/referenes to bolster your POV? Curious how/what made you come to the conclusions. You pointed to what I believe is the overarching issue that's distorted everything below "culture": the concept of "taste making" has either become diluted or shifted pending one's particular stance.
I guess prior to 2015, taste making was synonymous with trend setting -- embracing who you are regardless of status quo. Pharrell's the classic example: going against the grain of tall tees, Mitchell & Ness jerseys etc and introducing/sporting the polos, Japanese designers, high fashion etc. in a space where it was foreign for participants/community. At least in the sense of "being into that is not cool/gangsta so I can't take you serious." The motivation was never money/clout, that came after inspiring a movement. The energy was literally "I am other."
Overtime the perception of "taste making" has become more invested in wanting to be accepted by everyone regardless of whether you internally believe in whatever outward appearance you're presenting to the world. It's basically "choose your player" in real life, but the selection is only 3 lol. And it's fine being a chameleon. Same poses/styling/filter/"35 mm"/footwear etc etc. Spawning copy/paste clones who feel like in their own right they're "taste makers" because they've adopted the same cues that their idol has, who btw is everyone's "idol" lol, who btw, has their sets of "taste makers," behind the scenes who are actually*** POC tastemakers that they're siphoning from. Trust me on this. I think there's something wrong with that...bringing me to appropriation point.
On your point regarding appropriation: how would you describe Anna Wintour/Vogue Air Jordan collab? The same Anna Wintour who I promise you prior to 2018/whenever the collection dropped hadn't worn a pair of J's in her life lol. Or Kylie Jenner pulling up to a show in a du rag? I don't necessarily think sharing culture is a good thing. You share, and before you know it, it's gone. What do you have left when everyone looks/dresses/talks the same? We all should be able to contrive our distinct identities via the narrative of "this is my culture."
Unfortunately this gradual drift has dumbed down creative. Nowadays it's pretty much accepted/rewarded to simply run parallel with visible societal currents. I think prior to social media, designers didn't have the luxury of getting real time feedback. Buyers were pretty much their thermostat. That naiveness lends itself to more genuine creative: not necessarily fetishizing, and taste making is not guaranteed. There's an exciting risk with the prospect of introducing the next "it" item, and it could be anyone. Most importantly, it comes from you, so nobody can really duplicate it without looking crazy. Today, I think designers are relying more heavily on reacting to what they're seeing. This is why everything pretty much looks the same and the majority of the group move as a pack. "Somebody brings back crossbody bags and it takes off, following season market is flooded with crossbody bags."
this on one f***ing zillion