Hate to say it but this is one area where Cole does better than Ye
LOOOOL stfu kiddo
ye wanted it that way, he wanted the wall of sound that a lot of top chart songs had around that time bc that’s the music he was trying to compete with
can someone point to parts in songs with clipping? ive heard this complaint a lot and kinda hear it but id love to have examples so i fully understand what people are saying when they point this out
iirc there's a bunch on Monster, especially the hook. It's been declipped on the "unmastered" version but I prefer the original because the EQ sounds better balanced there, kind sucks that those clicks are still present tho.
I would probably try and get rid of them but I rarely listen to MBDTF and when I do, the poor mastering doesn't get in the way of my enjoyment.
I don't remember if it was 808s or MBDTF but Kanye said a remaster was on the way and it never came out.
ye wanted it that way, he wanted the wall of sound that a lot of top chart songs had around that time bc that’s the music he was trying to compete with
Understandable, he took it the more extreme direction tbh
Just leaving this here.
Why does the guy getting interviewed sound butt hurt as s***.
Just leaving this here.
cant tell if hes being sarcastic the whole time or not
Just leaving this here.
What's the controversy here? That it was done in a bedroom and not by "pros"? I've not listened to the album through headphones so Idk about the mastering but from what I've heard so far I think the production and mixing is very nice, creative and worthy of acclaim.
Who tf approved this s***? Musically the album is fantastic and top notch no doubt, the mastering holds it back significantly imo. It feels very chaotic listening through my headphones, which my ears bleed from the distortion and piercing noises, I'll probably lose my hearing towards the end. I just wish they remaster the album some point down the road, maybe in for the anniversary this year.
What a shame, think the only time I'll bump this entire thing is through my laptop speakers tbh
I actually have this feeling by listening gorgeous
All you need to do to prove OP right is listen to that God awful crackling with each piano note on the opening to Runaway. For everyone claiming it’s stylistic to compress the s*** out of your album, listen to that part which is obviously supposed to be a dramatic break from all the maximalism of the rest of the album and ask yourself: why the f*** is it still so loud it sounds like there’s something wrong with my headphones?
All you need to do to prove OP right is listen to that God awful crackling with each piano note on the opening to Runaway. For everyone claiming it’s stylistic to compress the s*** out of your album, listen to that part which is obviously supposed to be a dramatic break from all the maximalism of the rest of the album and ask yourself: why the f*** is it still so loud it sounds like there’s something wrong with my headphones?
do you know what compression is lol
do you know what compression is lol
Yes and that's why there's God awful crackling on the Runaway intro. The compression on the track made the single piano note loud as f*** and there's clipping on the entire track, but it's so damn obvious in the intro because it's just a single instrument.
do you know what compression is lol
I can post pictures of the waveform if it would please you
Yes and that's why there's God awful crackling on the Runaway intro. The compression on the track made the single piano note loud as f*** and there's clipping on the entire track, but it's so damn obvious in the intro because it's just a single instrument.
So the compression is applied in the whole song uniformly? That sounds like lazy mixing and I’m not sure that’s the case entirely. You could be right but it’s possible that the intro just was EQ’d harshly.
Either way the team that mixed it said it was intentionally done that way.
Wasn't it mastered by Vlado though? The man who's hated by fans from several genres for mastering way too loud
Wasn't it mastered by Vlado though? The man who's hated by fans from several genres for mastering way too loud
Yea, but tbh some of the albums that Vlado mastered sounded fantastic like C3 and Graduation
its less noticable on vinyl tho
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/7289
Wtf am I looking at lol
Wtf am I looking at lol
you can look up any album and it'll tell you how "well" engineered it is in terms of dynamic range. red bad green good
for reference one of the best engineered albums ever
dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/83301
and one of the worst ones
dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/83434
and this is mbdtf CD
Yea, but tbh some of the albums that Vlado mastered sounded fantastic like C3 and Graduation
I wouldn't say they are fantasticly mastered, they could do with more dynamics and air or headroom, they suit the music tho I guess. MBDTF isn't the first high profile album he s*** on, Oasis' What's the story morning glory too
you can look up any album and it'll tell you how "well" engineered it is in terms of dynamic range. red bad green good
for reference one of the best engineered albums ever
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/83301
and one of the worst ones
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/83434
and this is mbdtf CD
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/162078
Letting DR determine wether something is engineered right is like diagnosing a patiant only by their temperature. DR values can be misleading, I'm sure some think the MBDTF vinyl is mastered better than the CD because its DR is higher but it's cut from the same file the CD was pressed with. In that case, vinyl shows better DR because it's not only the music file that's being tested, it's also the needle running over grooves.
There's been times where I've chosen a CD with a lower DR over a CD with a higher DR. If I had've just went by DR I'd have gone with a CD with less favorable EQ or less optimal tape source.
Where’s your audio engineering degree OP
He should post a sample of his work so we know what good mastering is