Also insane that prayer to coffee bean is some massive drop in quality like you could’ve at least pulled some actual bullshit like highest in the room

Yeah Travis wrote the track in entirety. Cyhi was there to correct things like flow and meter

It's a pretty big drop in quality based on lyrics. The production is entirely different.

Ur tripping sack lol coffee bean is prolly the most introspective Travis had been at that point, as shallow as it is

It can’t be defined in that way but they have contributed something great to rap. They’re both very talented at channeling an aesthetic which is entirely rap itself. Their ability to capture live crowds with their music shows they’re doing something right while remaining authentic to hip hop. The proof is before your eyes.

i just saw travis bust a fat breakdance the other day

yall are so lame and dusty gahdam

“more damage to hip hop” 🤓

I do have some issues with Travis but I can't deny, him and Carti are definitely Hip Hop asf.

they respect their goats. kanye and lil wayne

funniest post in this thread

travis no. carti maybe.

lol

The problem with blaming 808's/Rebirth is that it's essentially penalizing Ye/Wayne for experimenting and I just can't cosign that.

If anything, T-Pain and Kid Cudi had just as much influence on the melodic singing wave as 808's did even though 808's inspired many. And Uzi pushed the rock-rap lane further than Wayne especially with his Emo/Punk aesthetic that he was pushing hard while d***riding Paramore.

I think it's way too simplistic to claim that these 2 albums made newer rappers respect hip hop less, especially when Ye and Wayne have continued the keep many traditional rap elements alive in the mainstream after dropping those albums.

Condom eyes would have great insight

It is crazy because Carti is so trash as an rapper. His voice is horrible too idk how niggas dont see it. It’s almost as if we aren’t even listening to the same thing.

you’re cooking but they gotta understand hip-hop beyond their narrow interpretation of “real rap” to hear you

hey did you guys know that rap music bad now, rap music good back when? crazy that nobody thought of this before.

they hatin on us

y'all just getting old for this

Travis pretty f***ing washed and creatively bankrupt

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