Their form of rap is making a vibe and a few catchy lyrics sound good

Dont sound like hip hop to me lol

ITS NOT HIP HOP lol read brother

They're rapping but they're not making hiphop they're making some other subgenre of rap music

We have this problem of grouping everything into the same genre and then not understanding why Carti doesn't sound like Nas or something

It's because they make different genres of music

Kelly Clarkson sings. So does Tom Waits. They make different genres of music.

Look at rapping like singing and everything makes sense

i see what u mean but like i just disagree with the idea of regression when it’s just not prioritizing the same things

Honestly all of Carti new s*** been heat bruh gets a pass let the music talk

how is WLR white kid music

dont mind their music, but neither of them have anything interesting to say in their music, especially travis. he's like an AI

what direction would be considered a good one in your opinion?

I think a direction that's prolly more focused on the quality of the raps and less on the image and beats.

You can do all of em but for Carti and Travis and their spawns it's pretty clear the actual words are the least important part of their music which is a shame because lyricism was what Rap had over other genres.

Which is part of why I think you see the decline in rap in general in public interest just the unique things about it have heen stripped away.

That song with The Weeknd is the first time Carti hasn’t performed in italics since like Die Lit

I feel like some music like carti would age bad but carti himself isnt. I feel like alot of carti will be the pin points of certain genre shifts

I like Carti and Travis but it's funny how much lower the bar is for them.

Drake dropped some heat on 100 Gigs but people still called it mid and a flop.

But if Travis rapped half as good as Drake did on No Face and Circadian Rhythm, ya'll would be calling him the next Nas lol.

Hiphop fans and the media and the status quo are in the exact position for a splash shakeup

You picked out two rappers that release high quality product lmao

Have you heard anything he’s dropped in the last year? Nigga is actually rapping he don’t even use adlibs outside of one new one

No no no add it back

ngl this is true too

nigga Carti mentioned some of his kids on H00DBYAIR and one of these niggas in the thread was saying his next album was gonna be his most mature and refined like what the f***

Travis is aight but his production carries him. Carti got gassed hard by white kids, a lot of his stuff is just a hard pass

But what it’s not prioritizing is one of the core foundations of hiphop

@Childhood

It is coming

yup.

its funny how rap, espcially pre like 2014, is suppose to be about making your own style.

but whenever someone or an area does it gets s***ted on for not being an already existed form.

NY boo'ed and called Outkast not hiphop and not rap - which sure i guess their psychdelic and (similar to west) funk influences along with more melodic structure and effect usage isnt rap of what ny is doing, whicht theyre mostly using jazz and soul records and very straight forward rapping, but its still using the very core of rap to make its own thing. its just not the exact same thing.

or biggie and de-la s***ting on e40 and 2pac.

time is a circle.

Sigh you’re right. I’ll make it a reply

Think The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess type moment but for hiphop