yes everyone has imitated carti to death but no one has done it as good or better than he does it, they’re just cheap imitators even mario judah did it pretty well but carti has way more going on than just “baby voice” and weird noises. and i don’t disagree with u storytelling takes skill as well they are both valid forms of art just different forms

The hook on Stop Breathing - the biggest WLR song - is a flip of a 2008 Gucci mixtape classic btw

more so Carti with his loser ass offspring devoid of any sort of value for hip hop principles, can’t deny that even if you like his music which I do, Travis is more like a damn virus than a consequential musical figure to me

A culture and a commodity

Posting a video of a nigga rapping off his cell phone as proof of him taking his lumps is mad funny I can’t front.

Also I think Carti the only artist of his SoundCloud era that actively showed love to the older heads that came before him to be fair

nigga said a virus

if he was doing it in a monotone voice sure, but using your voice as an instrument like thug and carti do doesn’t come off as lazy to me

The production is far more hiphop than their delivery is rapping tho. You can put a lot of the vocals on non hiphop beats and it’ll fit right in undetected, but those beats are undeniably hiphop

The overly digital sounds don’t take from that

Nothing about what carti is doin is « easy » these niggas just never made music. There’s a reason he’s where he’s at

Has anyone explained how Carti/Trav are the catalysts of this?

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I see your points @op for sure but I think the love for aesthetics over skill was a thing before either of these guys too.
One could argue that they made it worse for sure tho cuz Carti’s clones suck ass

real

Yep s*** hard

A lot of these niggas are badly singing with hood blaccents over hiphop beats and being considered rappers cause if it

If anything vocally they’re rock (hence why their audience is the way it is, on top of their Mike Dean synths being modern electric guitars)

OP is coping

the blame is more on Thug & Future than them niggas

IIRC the only person I remember openly disrespecting hiphop legends on tape was Lil Yachty too

i’ve always thought those synths sounded exactly like a guitar ever since the sound really took off

If I put Carti baby voice on Carti biggest opp who dropped on his one of his main producers for WRL album a few weeks before his album

It’s a reason niggas leaned into that rockstar aesthetic when the sound took off lmao

feel like u could trace this convo to 50 cent even

Not really. 50 still got freestyles and was a great songwriter in terms of knowing how to make hooks, bridges, and he wrote for other niggas.

Plus he displayed wit.

People memed on him cuz of his background / getting shot 9 times

Ding ding ding mfs who think they doing something blaming everything on “aesthetics” not realizing the aesthetics come from the sounds not the other way around

This is where aesthetics are a problem. AFTER the fact but mfs don’t get that

oh i meant the 50 ye clash in 2007