why are you acting like I'm talking about the actual instruments.. I'm talking about the people who spent their lifetimes learning the instrument, the actual instrument players.

they were completely displaced by software and their art is literally stolen every day by dweebs in their bedroom so they can make some s***ty beat in FL studio. I'm sure a lot of people cared about this s*** 20-30 years ago but whens the last time you saw someone complain Drake/Kanye dont use real instruments in their songs?

you niggas still arguing over this

this another phase that's gonna be over with pretty soon. cash in and cash out

I bet if Drake ain't say "this the last straw AI" it would be a different sentiment in here

This comparison gets made every time the AI s*** is brought up and it’s genuinely baffling how so many people stupidly think it’s anywhere near similar.

Digital instruments are still INSTRUMENTS. Human artists are still the ones controlling what is created even if they’re not playing it on a physical instrument.

And besides, the best electronic producers still have immense knowledge of musical theory and what works and what doesn’t work.

There is a big difference between that and typing “write a Drake song” into ChatGPT and then having an AI Drake voice filter sing the words that it creates.

It’s not the same whatsoever

That PC software couldn’t make a random nobody play guitar like Jimi Hendrix, that’s the point you’re missing

There’s a big difference between modernizing and b******izing.

This AI s*** is completely b******izing and destroying the essence of what music is, which is human expression

it can however let a 16 year old with a month of producing experience replace 5+ people with 10+ years of experience learning a musical instrument

defending that whilst s***ting on what's happening here is just weird

Idk if you’ve checked the liner notes for any mainstream album recently, but almost all of them still use real session musicians on various songs.

Unless you’re talking solely about hip-hop, which is also stupid because that’s always been a genre that has used electronic equipment to create instrumentals

That's not how current AI music works though, maybe it will in the future but all of these songs have some dude rapping/singing an original song in the style of the artist in the first place, that alone takes a lot of talent.

and yes you still need a lot of talent to create beats but my point is it reduced the amount of talent/humans you need to make music. It took a lot of soul out, no one cares now. Just like no one will care about this in 20 years.

All you’re talking about is modernization and technological advancements. This AI s*** is neither of those things, it’s b******ization

Yea fair. I'm sure a lot of people said the same thing about FL Studio back in the early 2000s, i have a feeling no one will care if the music's good

No because you can give FL Studio to someone who’s not musically inclined whatsoever and they will have no idea what they’re doing.

I can get ChatGPT to write a Drake song for me right now, and then all I have to do is sing it in a Drake flow and have the AI voice filter mask it and it will sound exactly like him.

DAWs and AI are nothing alike, that comparison is stupid as s***

Literally “🤓”

Do you honestly believe that people will be like "eh that song wasn't made by someone that put in a few months of work to learn how things work, i'm not going to listen"

The point is FL Studio made making beats 1000x easier, this AI will make making music 10000000x easier, to the average consumer I guarantee you there will be no difference. they will genuinely not give a s***

It’s not about how much time someone put in, it’s the fact that it’s not a REAL HUMAN BEING.

Most people listen to the music they listen to because they resonate with it and they relate with the artist through the song. That is literally impossible with AI because there is no actual artist, and therefore there is no human expression.

It’s literally the equivalent of deepfake p*rn. It’s gross, unethical, uncomfortable, and frankly disgusting

Yea I really don't think this is true, look at Hot 100 and how much garbage is on there. There's no way people relate with the actual humans behind the song. When it comes to rap people barely even knows who made half the song (the beat)

if it was all about resonating/relating then sad music would be a lot more popular, but it's all about generic music

youtube.com/watch?v=8fcrgg_ZsOg

Okay nerd.

Your argument for people not resonating with songs on the Hot 100 is a song that uses one of the most famous & loved samples of all time

You literally have no idea what you’re talking about

Meek went from dissing Drake for rapping lyrics he didn’t write to publicly sharing a Drake song that he didn’t write OR rap, the character development is crazy

twitter fingers lives on

the FL Studio comparison is not it.

That was a tool. You still needed musical sense to use that. This is a lot more drastic I feel like?

What do you guys think drakes reaction is to all of this? Do you think he even cares?

lmao bro

This is not the same.

Especially when many studio musicians get called to add on to beats still because producers realize a stock bass on logic/garage/ableton doesnt replace a real bassline.

Ask me how I know this

Frankly outside of the most meticulous listeners🤓