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  • Mar 23, 2023
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    Bow And Arrow

    It's Mcarthyism

    A congressmen asked if you can post videos about Tiananmen Square and when he said yes, the congressmen said "I remind you that lying to congress is a federal offense" which is what they say when they think you're lying.

    There's videos on the topic that have been on Tiktok for ages and they're easily searchable

    They think that Douyin (Chinese TikTok) and TikTok (outside of China) are the same service ran by the same administration.

    That has never been the case in many transnational companies, many have separate divisions in regards to global markets.

    While there is legitimate concern to be had of power by the Chinese head division over the global subordinates, they are not one in the same. Just as American Silicon Valley companies hold control over their global sub-divisions and can dictate over them.

    I am not defending the data gathering practices of these corporations but it is necessary to know when someone is bullshitting about this. Content filters are largely tailored to what is deemed acceptable both informally (by civilians) and formally (by the state). It is why LGBTQ+ references are censored by American movie studios if a film is being globally distributed

  • dead prez ✌️
    Mar 23, 2023
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    I saw some clips on tiktok of the tiktok hearings and I must say, the tiktok guy came off really well and the congressmen came off like bozos.

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Mar 23, 2023
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    dead prez

    I saw some clips on tiktok of the tiktok hearings and I must say, the tiktok guy came off really well and the congressmen came off like bozos.

    They Really clipped the worst people / congressmen. I watched it live: the tik tok guy was getting absolutely cooked besides a select few boomers

  • dead prez ✌️
    Mar 23, 2023
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    Kr0niic

    They Really clipped the worst people / congressmen. I watched it live: the tik tok guy was getting absolutely cooked besides a select few boomers

    What was he getting cooked for?

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Mar 24, 2023
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    dead prez

    What was he getting cooked for?

    Lots of stuff about him being controlled what he’s saying by the CCP. Refusing to say certain stuff about Chinese genocide, or saying bytedance is a Chinese company. By saying it’s a “global company” and saying no it’s not Chinese

    Refusing to say China has access to user data and such

  • dead prez ✌️
    Mar 24, 2023
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    Kr0niic

    Lots of stuff about him being controlled what he’s saying by the CCP. Refusing to say certain stuff about Chinese genocide, or saying bytedance is a Chinese company. By saying it’s a “global company” and saying no it’s not Chinese

    Refusing to say China has access to user data and such

    gotcha. idk enough about it to have a real opinion but i feel like they should let tiktok be. aint hurting anybody. it's good to keep them in check and not let them do anything foul but they shouldnt ban the app. or at least idk what cause they have to do so

  • Kr0niic ☘️
    Mar 24, 2023
    dead prez

    gotcha. idk enough about it to have a real opinion but i feel like they should let tiktok be. aint hurting anybody. it's good to keep them in check and not let them do anything foul but they shouldnt ban the app. or at least idk what cause they have to do so

    They should force tik tok to fully sell to a U.S. company and all data to go to the US if they care that much. Not ban it

  • Mar 24, 2023
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    These congressmen won’t keep the same energy with Meta because Meta’s literally funding this lmao

  • dead prez ✌️
    Mar 24, 2023
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    honestly... idk what to think about this. i personally don't care if China has my data because I'm a normal ass adult with nothing to hide and I can't be brainwashed. I'm fine with them tracking me. but on the aggregate ..... talking about millions of american users including children and people who are important ... i understand the concern.

  • dead prez ✌️
    Mar 24, 2023

    if f***ing Vine had just become as good and popular as tiktok we wouldn't be in the position

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    People act like Zuck wasnt being grilled by em not so long ago too . Google boss and twitter too. In fact every one was cheering that on when it happened.. if they do ban it I get it but people got short memories saying why this guy being questioned and pointing to other social media companies like they haven't also faced scrutiny

  • Mar 24, 2023
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    lets gooooo // smoking that TIKTOK PAKK R.I.P BOZO
    :​

  • Mar 24, 2023
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    Synopsis

    You posted a graph implying that the rise of big tech = rise in mental health issues among adolescents. i'm telling you correlation =/= causation. that graph implies that social media is the determining factor. it is not, capitalism is. you can do all you want to try and restrict these companies tomorrow (which will never happen because capitalism) and people's mental states are not going to improve because their material conditions are going to continue to get worse.

    Look, personally what you're saying is true and agreeable. Obviously unchecked capitalism is something that needs to be critiqued and fixed. My argument is that big tech needs regulation or laws put into place. Right now these companies running amuck on our society are top outcomes due to late stage capitalism.

  • Mar 24, 2023
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    Mountain Dude

    Look, personally what you're saying is true and agreeable. Obviously unchecked capitalism is something that needs to be critiqued and fixed. My argument is that big tech needs regulation or laws put into place. Right now these companies running amuck on our society are top outcomes due to late stage capitalism.

    Sure. But doing that isn't going to suddenly stop the mental health crisis

  • Mar 24, 2023
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    Sure. But doing that isn't going to suddenly stop the mental health crisis

    What do you propose then? Free services to benefit strong mental health? Cheaper medications and public health care? (which is generally something that is supported by most people)

  • ban that s***, i've had tiktok deleted, horrible ass app especially for young people.

  • Mar 24, 2023
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    Mountain Dude

    What do you propose then? Free services to benefit strong mental health? Cheaper medications and public health care? (which is generally something that is supported by most people)

    get rid of capitalism would be my main solution

  • Mar 24, 2023

    but yes all medical care should be free of charge too

  • Mar 24, 2023
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    get rid of capitalism would be my main solution

    Replace it with what?

  • Mar 24, 2023
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    Mountain Dude

    Replace it with what?

    socialism

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  • Mar 24, 2023
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    socialism

    Can you explain further on what exactly you would change? Not discrediting you, just wanting to hear more of your opinion.

  • Mar 24, 2023
    FashionExists

    lets gooooo // smoking that TIKTOK PAKK R.I.P BOZO
    :​

  • Kr0niic

    Lots of stuff about him being controlled what he’s saying by the CCP. Refusing to say certain stuff about Chinese genocide, or saying bytedance is a Chinese company. By saying it’s a “global company” and saying no it’s not Chinese

    Refusing to say China has access to user data and such

    Yeah I'm seeing like specific edits for the hearing and trying to make the CEO look really good. On the basis of trying to keep Tick Tock and promote Tick Tock as being a positive platform.

    You got some social media gooners really trying to make Tick Tock edits of the dude as well

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