Imagine J Cole waited 3 years after FNL only to drop Cole Word Sideline Story and then started telling people to eat some d***s after they criticized the album. It's more than just dropping a bad album, plenty of artists drop bad debut albums and survive
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Cudi dropped SBTH and became the internets punching bag for a bit and then he started dropping and promoting PPDS songs A MONTH AND A HALF later
sometimes you got a put your pride to the side and realize sometimes your fans know what they want
He blew up when big media decided who could blow. Now that the people decide he got exposed
Also a good point, I think the last 2-3 years show the fans have a lot more power in dictating the sound, I.e yeat
CB was good, sadly fell off.
Plenty of others have had albums deemed that bad and still be able to bounce back. People just acting like it’s impossible for him
What would tou tell him if you were his manager / creative director?
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Cudi dropped SBTH and became the internets punching bag for a bit and then he started dropping and promoting PPDS songs A MONTH AND A HALF later
sometimes you got a put your pride to the side and realize sometimes your fans know what they want
And coming from someone like Cudi who has also been known to lash out and get emotional over criticism, that says a lot.
Chance just needed to suck it up and keep it moving instead of being in denial about the whole thing.
remember kyle ?
Had a nigga recommend Kyle to me once when we were hotboxing in his car. I didn't have the heart to tell him that I already knew who Kyle was and I thought he was corny af outside of one song This same guy was praising TBD when it dropped, literally the only nigga I saw hyping the album up on social media
Chance got popular off of his unique style, his incredible beat selection and his charming personality.
Coloring book proved chance could maintain his style while also appealing to the mainstream, as long as he kept the charming persona up.
What really killed chance wasent just a bad record (SB2H didn't kill Cudi's career), it was his arrogance about how dogshit his record was. He took all the criticism personally, hopped online to insult fans who were disappointed with his project, then blamed his long term manager for the album's disastrous reception.
Chance didn't lose a career to a changing sound and environment. Chance killed his career by acting like a self righteous d*** over his awful album.
No, because coloring book was his biggest project
Yeah but we’re not talking about that one. We talking about the big day.
Had a nigga recommend Kyle to me once when we were hotboxing in his car. I didn't have the heart to tell him that I already knew who Kyle was and I thought he was corny af outside of one song This same guy was praising TBD when it dropped, literally the only nigga I saw hyping the album up on social media
Oh s*** didn't he support trump too?
No it was compounded by that bullshit album and @op you a grade A dummy for thinking otherwise
Revival is bad, SB2H is bad
No Cole album is bad
He just drop bad album that all, if he want to bounce back, he need to start by dropping better music.
Roddy still has the chance to comeback though. If he’s smart and plays his cards right, he can win people back and move on from the L.
Roddy revenge szn
I think he has to find a more defined sound but yeah he has it in him.
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Cudi dropped SBTH and became the internets punching bag for a bit and then he started dropping and promoting PPDS songs A MONTH AND A HALF later
sometimes you got a put your pride to the side and realize sometimes your fans know what they want
I think Chance took it SUPER personally bc the album was about his wife and kids(? not sure never actually listened tbh)
I think he’s self righteous about it bc he genuinely believes hip hop needs music with these themes.
the thing with The Big Day to me is there's NO WAY that's the album he was sitting on from 2016-2019. So where did those songs go???
When do you think Chance realized he f***ed up with The Big Day?
When the ticket sales for The Big Day tour were horrific or when Kanye was screaming at him and mentioned how his album was a flop?
what was funny was how much he focused on the "don't need a label/organic" thing, then the soundcloud rap era came immediately afterwards and made such a comeup/situation a totally ordinary thing
Am I misremembering or was part of it that he did have significant label and industry backing, even if it wasn’t a formal signed contract