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  • Jul 31, 2020
    notesfromphilo

    where do i subscribe to these kinds of threads

    i'm here for philosophy ktt2

    It’s a peak of what L&A used to, and could be once again brother

  • Jul 31, 2020

    Ahh the pleasures of epistemology

  • Jul 31, 2020
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    Math is empirical and ingrained in reality, such as distance , time, ect.

    Visual math is like 2+2=4 is “ A priori” meaning a statement or argument that’s exist independently of the conclusion, that is definitely discovered

    The theories we use to explain it, like the Pythagorean theorem are “A posteriori knowledge” and are invented

  • It’s a concept to describe observable phenomena. It wasn’t invented or discovered.

  • nocomment

    So when two hunters were missing spears they didnt think “oh we need two more spears”?

    Not before the cognitive revolution

  • Jul 31, 2020

    Do you think math existing proves we're in a simulation?

    If you think about it, everything is math.

  • Jul 31, 2020
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    dat guy

    Saying I want two apples instead of one is math already, if anything, it grew in terms of complexity

    I misread the thread title as was METH invented or discovered then got kinda confused at this reply

  • Jul 31, 2020
    Cowbook

    I misread the thread title as was METH invented or discovered then got kinda confused at this reply

  • Jul 31, 2020
    notesfromphilo

    i think this is it

    because without the format we came up with

    nothing means anything

    for example

    1+1 is only 2 because we all agreed that's the case

    in the same way that blue is only blue because we decided it's blue

    i have an interesting relationship with colors as i am colorblind...

    that's what led me to this way of thinking i think

    Everything we have ever created has only been observations of nature.

  • Jul 31, 2020

    Two things can be true at once

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jul 31, 2020

    It’s a way of understanding universal truths

  • Jul 31, 2020
    notesfromphilo

    where do i subscribe to these kinds of threads

    i'm here for philosophy ktt2

  • OUT OF ORDER

    Did the man who invented college, go to college?

  • notesfromphilo

    where do i subscribe to these kinds of threads

    i'm here for philosophy ktt2

    Synopsis gotchu

  • Ronin

    Clearly the concepts described by math would be there with or without humans, so it wasn't invented

    But maybe you can say that the specific format of "math" that humans use was invented in order to more easily describe and predict the natural world

  • Jul 31, 2020
    PADYBU
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    @ROVO

    I might be climbing on mirrors here but this is just the way I see it. I'm using the word concept by it's definition. That idea isn't what you've found per se, the phenomenon is what you've found and the concept is what you've thought up to try explain it

    the idea didn't always exist, the phenomenon did

    that apple always falling from the tree exposes a phenomenon, Newton had a concept when viewing this which grew into the theory of gravity

    I'm making the distiction that one (phenomena) is how the universe works and the other (concept) is us percieving and describing it.

    I bring this up because the title is using the term mathmatics, which is manmade as is logic, correct? just because these are manmade does not mean they're not rooted in natural phenomena of how the universe works. It is us who doing the concieving, of ways to describe how the world works through numbers, letters what have you

    I wish I could give you a thoughtful answer but it’s 9am and I’m off 2 hours of sleep

  • PIMP 💿
    Jul 31, 2020

    You got two parents trying to have a kid

    1+1 is 3

    Heyyyyyyyy babyyyyy

  • Concepts discovered

    Methods invented

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  • Jul 31, 2020
    rozco

    Idk man, math kind of blows my mind. My thinking’s naturally geared toward visuals, literature and abstract concepts so I’m honestly just impressed by math and people who are proficient at it.

    I get the same way when I start thinking about time fam

  • Nuja 🫶🏾
    Aug 1, 2020
    nxtlvl

    invented

    F*** that nigga for inventing bullshit

  • you know how f***ing hard it would be to INVENT the entire concept of math??? you would have to create the whole universe lol

  • Jbreezyondeck

    Very conflicting question

    Invented. its simply a way for humans to put the universe in simple understandable terms.

  • Aug 1, 2020
    notesfromphilo

    where do i subscribe to these kinds of threads

    i'm here for philosophy ktt2