Not sure I know the one or the last one, but Best Coast for sure! Saw them live way back, and they did a song with Weezer on Everything Will Be Alright too!

Loove me some Tony Molina, I’ve talked about him before on ktt, he big big weezer geek alright haha he’s definitely who I would recommend for who wants a Weezer fix, maybe that and Ozma (who also worked on Everything) and some other more, I plan on posting on all of them in the future itt

Nice! I never got into Ozma but I did like Nerf Herder, who are also kind of in the Weezer/Rentals/Ozma nerd rock realm.
Dark Blue are from Philadelphia and are a gothic Britpop skinhead punk band but that’s just a whole bunch of buzzwords for “slowed down punk songs with pretty guitar leads and crooned vocals”, and some of it winds up incidentally sounding like Weezer and Interpol and the Pixies. The drummer has been in a bunch of bands, the bassist plays guitar in that punk band Ceremony, and the singer was in a goth band called Puerto Rico Flowers and a punk band called Clockcleaner.

Damn sounds good! I will check on all of this, much appreciated brother! real as hell

I like some Ozma stuff still, first album is cool! (I have a funny story about me and them but not sure I wanna post it in public) love Baseball, I played it one time while dating this girl and she said “if you didn’t tell me I could’ve sworn this was Weezer!” lol

I never understand the Rentals love tho, aged so bad, feels just like a wack excuse for people pissed at Rivers not staying indie or alternative or whatever, imo Matt Sharp is a complete hack, no offense

You ever heard his The World Has Turned And Left Me Here acoustic cover? it’s horrendous haha

Always thought it was funny how he toured and collaborated with Blur, while Rivers remains a massive Oasis nerd to this day, it’s like the Oasis v Blur war played on within weezer haha

@cotton_dockers 🤘

Haaa, I didn’t think about the Oasis vs. Blur cold war aspect of the Rentals covering “Tracy Jacks”, etc. The Rentals probably haven’t aged well, but I feel like if “The Love I’m Searching For”, “Waiting”, “Move On” or “Please Let That Be You” came on I wouldn’t change them. But yes, I agree, definitely something that Matt Sharp fans tended to bitterly cling to. I guess even though it’s not like he wrote “Say It Ain’t So” or anything, his departure from the band did seem to give way to the full-on Cuomo dictatorship that followed.

I want to clarify that I was not in the seventh grade when Pinkerton actually came out, haha. I believe this was more around Maladroit (May have even bought them on the same record store visit). But yes, OG enough of a fan to have come in on the “Hash Pipe” comeback wave.
That’s totally true about all of their albums being a direct reaction of sorts to the one before it, from Pinkerton all the way to now. I don’t think any other band on their level has that weird constant level of strife. Like, 311 has their own cruise too, and their fans don’t seem to take the newer records they don’t like as personal affronts to their inner child or whatever. Maybe Weezer’s music is more personal for people but he still really only got that personal the one time!
I’ll definitely give White a re-listen; I remember being disappointed when it came out but I must not have made it to “L.A. Girlz” because that’s as classic a Weezer song as I’ve ever heard. Otherwise re: new stuff, I feel like Rivers and I have just grown apart, haha. I’m not a monster, I like some pop music, but he likes it in a way and on a level that I do not. What else aside from White should I check out of the stuff I’ve missed?
And no, I never got to see them live! Not sure I’d want to now, but a friend of mine who isn’t a fan did take his wife who is a fan to see them and didn’t hate it as much as he was expecting to. I guess now it’s more ticket prices stopping me.

I feel like that’s a popular misconception, Matt said if he had stayed it would still have went Cuomo’s way either way, SFTBH showcases how everything is all Cuomo really anyway, even on new original songs for Pinkerton, in the making of there’s footages of Rivers telling and showing Matt Sharp how the bass on El Scorcho should go.

If anything he actually relaxed on that when Matt Sharp left, there’s a reason Scott’s style is so drastically opposite from Matt, it’s because he’s just doing his thing really without Cuomo guiding him.

@cotton_dockers Some of my favorites but i don’t wanna give it all away you should give it some spins!

rivers cuomo is a pretty cool name

I associate the really egregious stuff like Rivers docking band members’ pay for flubbed notes with the post-Sharp era and attributed it to the lineup becoming stacked against Pat as far as original vs. new members, giving Rivers even more leverage with which to control the band, but true, I’m sure this would have happened whether Matt had stayed or not.

And I dunno, Matt was definitely doing his own thing on Pinkerton! The bass is all over the place on that record and he gave the old songs busier re-workings in the live shows from that era. My favorite Scott quote: “I’ve been in bands where we drove for 12 hours in a van together and all made each other laugh until we threw up. Weezer is not that kind of band.”

Hahaha that’s hilarious, Scott is a ride or die homie tho, he just comes from a different background that’s what he meant

Matt was great on Pinkerton tho, his basslines are definitely all over the place and he himself noticed it when relistening to it haha, but I love it that way, intense songs guitars and singing needs intense basslines right? I don’t find that energy at all on Rentals tho so that’s weird, if anything Rentals is proto Make Believe to me in terms of songwriting

Agreed, no idea where all of that creative bass playing went come the Rentals. Maybe it was that he now had to sing lead while playing?

That’s actually a great point

friendly reminder that he sold those Songs About Time sets with like DVDs featuring 52 pretentious short films or whatever and of course the books with 365 black and white photos of basically nothing

🔊 CLIP OF THE DAY 🔊

One of my favorite unreleased song I die to hear someday in full and HD, a Rivers Cuomo demo from 1992 that has only played once during a Karl DJ set on one of the Weezer Cruise

Have you ever heard this? @cotton_dockers @Danny sounds so heavenly ... put some headphones on and volume loud tho

Goes to show you how much gems Rivers and the gang are still sleeping on..

That bluesy solo 😫

smooth

His brother is named Leaves, I think their parents were onto something

Gave White another listen! “L.A. Girlz” and “Endless Bummer” are absolutely the best songs (“California Kids” might grow on me; the only thing I don’t really like is the chorus), and there was no reason for “Friend of a Friend” not to be on the album proper. What are some other modern Weezer songs sound like these? This is more the type of music I would expect them to be making in 2020. The rest of it (and what I’ve heard of Black) isn’t bad per se, it’s just not for me and not really what I expect to hear when I listen to a Weezer record. Like, give these songs to Taylor Swift or someone instead of subjecting Weezer fans to them when you can clearly still write Weezer songs that sound like Weezer.
Edit: Whatever, though. Fans not wanting to evolve with them, whatever that evolution may happen to look like, is not their problem as the people who actually have to make Weezer songs. They’re kind of the most experimental modern arena rock band when you think about it, they’re just not experimental or difficult in a “cool”, deconstructionist way, it’s challenging in the complete opposite direction. They’re reconstructionist rock.

Another band you all might like: Purling Hiss

Mmm there’s other great modern Weezer songs, but that sounds like Friend Of A Friend? not sure

I’m actually anti purist and I was hoping Black would be even more radical than it turned out to be, as it was what Rivers originally promised (he mentioned at some point it wanting it to be a mumble rap album inspired by Lil Uzi), more like songs like Zombie Basterds or California Snow

Thing is Weezer has always been making the sound of what was happening, that’s why we were mentioning earlier songs that sounded just like Pixies or Pavement, because that was what was hot and going on back then, Rivers wasn’t on a mission to make a rock statement just doing music he likes, that’s where his fans misunderstands him and think he owes them some sound

I love White because Rivers is incredibly gifted to pull this effortlessly (he mentioned in interviews it was the producer, Jake Sinclair who himself used to be in a Weezer cover band, that pushed for the nostalgia factor and Rivers didn’t get it, why they were redoing the blue album) while other rock heroes or what not when they go back to root sound can come off with such lifeless sounding results

But I would find it beyond boring and uncreative, irrelevant if every Weezer album had to stick to a formula, it doesn’t work for any other band that does it if we’re being honest, sure I love me some Dinosaur Jr.(and so does Rivers as he mentions Lou Barlow on the Pinkerton map) hell I own a J Mascis signature guitar myself! but is their catalogue exciting to dive through out and have much to debate about? not really, and that’s why Weezer is really the only relevant band from their scene or era still going tbh

Like who talks about AC DC? You know what I mean? I even doubt there’s on single video on YouTube out there of someone that dives in and reviews every single releases they’ve done, hell I even doubt they have a fanbase strong enough that follows or knows the whole catalogue!

Yet they are beloved and praised for it? but what’s the legacy if not a ghost one

It’s cool that Weezer fans don’t really know what to expect when a new record drops, because the same probably cannot be said for the Foo Fighters or Green Day or any other modern arena rock band. The next most experimental band on that level might be Queens of the Stone Age, but again, they’re experimental in a hip “We listen to Can” kind of way that’s predictable and traditional in its own right.

🎛 SONG OF THE DAY 🎛

Produced by No I.D.

Mensa was eventually introduced to Pinkerton by producer Papi Beatz, who put the record on during a cruise through Los Angeles during the Autobiography recording sessions. Now, Mensa said, it's his favorite Weezer album.

After the "Good Life" loop was built, Cuomo invited Mensa to his studio and ended up loving it "so much he laid down some vocals at the end of the song."

📼 CONCERT OF THE DAY 📼

weezer | live at “Electric Factory” Philadelphia, PA December 5th, 1996

• Setlist
  1 Tired Of S***2 Getchoo
  3 My Name Is Jonas
  4 Pink Triangle
  5 No One Else
  6 No Other One
  7 Why Bother?
  8 In The Garage
  9 You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
  10 Falling For You
  11 Say It Ain’t So
  12 The Good Life
  13 Undone - The Sweater Song
  14 Butterfly
  15 Across The Sea
  16 El Scorcho
  17 Buddy Holly
  18 Surf Wax America
  19 The Trooper (Iron Maiden Cover)

It probably doesn’t get any better than this, golden era setlist, prime time energy, everything all in one raw and rare video, believe it or not but this video bootleg treasure we now take for granted accessible at any click away only surfaced 4y ago! goes to show you the tip of the iceberg of what we’re missing out on still