Dec 29, 2020·1 reply
OshoKanye has always done stadium tours even TLOP some places had 100k people. Post Malone and Travis could do this too
Cap.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pablo_Tour#Tour_dates
Kanye did 3 arena shows in Inglewood and still didn't reach 100,000 people.
Only artists today that can successful do arena tours are Beyonce, Ed Sheeran, Taylor Swift, and maybe Eminem.
Dec 29, 2020
jjjjjoundDidn’t Drake say he doesn’t wanna do stadiums cause it ruins the fan experience ? And if you think the biggest rapper of the past decade can’t do stadiums you’re delusional
He can't. Literally has to get everyone and their mom to buy.
- Lightsxo 🌈Dec 29, 2020·2 replies
ZezimaNobody denied it being part of the business. I was just stating facts. And again who do you think makes up most of radio listeners in America historically and today? So again even if it’s indirect, if you want to be big you almost always have to sell out to white people. Some artists don’t mind this, as they just want the $, but a lot of artists lose themselves by getting stripped of their identity and what they are trying to convey in their music. But again like you said business is business, even if it’s at the expense of black artists and culture.
I honestly don’t think I’m the correct person to have this talk with because I understand everything you’re saying but I just can’t see why it’s bad to appeal to the masses.
They become famous, more people listen to them, artists gets more £££. Seems like a win win to me
Dec 29, 2020
New NIGHTMANWhy did you have this ready so quick ?
Dec 29, 2020·1 replyLightsxoImagine thinking this twisted.
They’re artists and a fan is a fan.
Who cares about the race
Yeah but there’s such a thing as black famous and white famous and people who have both.
There are platinum selling r&b artist white folks have never heard
- Dec 29, 2020·2 repliesLightsxo
I honestly don’t think I’m the correct person to have this talk with because I understand everything you’re saying but I just can’t see why it’s bad to appeal to the masses.
They become famous, more people listen to them, artists gets more £££. Seems like a win win to me
Not every artist shares that success story, and its easy to say when your race isn’t constantly being ripped offf and being stripped of its identity.
Mexican artists don’t have to sellout usually, because there are enough Hispanic countries to bump their s***.
Same can be said about most other races.
But not black because our African brother and sisters don’t even recognize American black s*** like that unless it’s Akon.So my point is simply, everyone else can make s*** for their intended fanbase and be major league successful, but if you’re black you are ALMOST always going to have to sell your identity out to achieve that same success.
Easy not to see the issue with this if you’re not black.
- Lightsxo 🌈Dec 29, 2020RX Nigerian Pastor
Yeah but there’s such a thing as black famous and white famous and people who have both.
There are platinum selling r&b artist white folks have never heard
That’s great I guess??
Without being rude, that’s my entire point. Fans are fans. Black white asian beige :)
- Dec 29, 2020Bobby_96
Cap.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pablo_Tour#Tour_dates
Kanye did 3 arena shows in Inglewood and still didn't reach 100,000 people.
Only artists today that can successful do arena tours are Beyonce, Ed Sheeran, Taylor Swift, and maybe Eminem.
Ahh maybe Watch The Throne did those numbers? I think Eminem could easily considering he performs to 80k in Italy, Australia etc.
OPDec 29, 2020LightsxoI honestly don’t think I’m the correct person to have this talk with because I understand everything you’re saying but I just can’t see why it’s bad to appeal to the masses.
They become famous, more people listen to them, artists gets more £££. Seems like a win win to me
Because everyone wants respect
Dec 29, 2020·editedCLB Fractionsyou movin goal posts
..could they even do 25+ stadium dates for a 1 leg North American Tour?
U.S. FirstEnergy Stadium FedExField
Lincoln Financial Field
MetLife Stadium
Gillette Stadium
U.S. Bank Stadium
Soldier Ford Field
Ohio Stadium New Era Field
Williams–Brice Stadium
Vanderbilt Stadium
Mercedes-Benz Stadium
Camping World Stadium
Hard Rock Stadium
AT&T Stadium
Mercedes-Benz Superdome
NRG Stadium
State Farm Stadium
Rose Bowl
SDCCU Stadium
Levi's Stadium
BC Place
U.S. CenturyLink Field..these are main stadium venues for touring in the US.. average tickets sold is 50-60,000+
The biggest star Drake could probably fill 5-7 of these stadiums before the pandemic, but he’s not goin on a 25+ date run in a leg like true heavy weights like Taylor and Beyonce.
- Dec 29, 2020
THIB
- Dec 29, 2020
Being a rockstar in the 70-80s
- Dec 29, 2020Zezima
Not every artist shares that success story, and its easy to say when your race isn’t constantly being ripped offf and being stripped of its identity.
Mexican artists don’t have to sellout usually, because there are enough Hispanic countries to bump their s***.
Same can be said about most other races.
But not black because our African brother and sisters don’t even recognize American black s*** like that unless it’s Akon.So my point is simply, everyone else can make s*** for their intended fanbase and be major league successful, but if you’re black you are ALMOST always going to have to sell your identity out to achieve that same success.
Easy not to see the issue with this if you’re not black.
Yep, that’s why most black artist who crossed over to the upper tier of the mainstream have a very different appeal and carry themselves than ones who don’t
That’s why people like Bobby brown, and Janet Jackson are revered so much cause they got that huge success without ever compromising the music or who they were.
Compare that to Lionel Richie or Jason derulo and how they’re perceived
I don’t think it matters as much now but back in the day it was definitely a thing tbh
- Lightsxo 🌈Dec 29, 2020·1 replyZezima
Not every artist shares that success story, and its easy to say when your race isn’t constantly being ripped offf and being stripped of its identity.
Mexican artists don’t have to sellout usually, because there are enough Hispanic countries to bump their s***.
Same can be said about most other races.
But not black because our African brother and sisters don’t even recognize American black s*** like that unless it’s Akon.So my point is simply, everyone else can make s*** for their intended fanbase and be major league successful, but if you’re black you are ALMOST always going to have to sell your identity out to achieve that same success.
Easy not to see the issue with this if you’re not black.
I’m glad you’re passionate about this my man.
I personally have literally 0 opinion on this cause I don’t think it’s that deep but thank you for actually taking the time to write it out.
I like to think of people are people first and then race but I guess that’s not uniform over the world.
Dec 29, 2020·1 replyDrake has literally said that the reason he doesnt do stadium tours is because you lose quality. The sound is usually terrible and you don’t feel connected to the show. He sold out the garden like 6 nights in a row here in NYC lol. He can do it
- Dec 29, 2020·2 repliesLightsxo
I’m glad you’re passionate about this my man.
I personally have literally 0 opinion on this cause I don’t think it’s that deep but thank you for actually taking the time to write it out.
I like to think of people are people first and then race but I guess that’s not uniform over the world.
The problem with your line of thinking is that you have the best intentions but you ignore history. Why should we all pretend to be equal now, when for hundreds of years Black people were treated as lesser than almost across the whole globe even by their own?
Black people were stripped of their identity for a very long time and you expect us to just be okay with it because it’s not a thing anymore.You can’t erase history just to make yourself feel better.
- Lightsxo 🌈Dec 29, 2020·1 replyZezima
The problem with your line of thinking is that you have the best intentions but you ignore history. Why should we all pretend to be equal now, when for hundreds of years Black people were treated as lesser than almost across the whole globe even by their own?
Black people were stripped of their identity for a very long time and you expect us to just be okay with it because it’s not a thing anymore.You can’t erase history just to make yourself feel better.
I mean... yeah???
It’s not relevant to my life so I’m not sure what you’d want me to do lol.
Dec 29, 2020social distancing
- Lightsxo 🌈Dec 29, 2020
I didn’t know stadium tours was a race relation topic
- Dec 29, 2020CLB Fractions
you movin goal posts
No we not lol. Beyonce Taylor and bts can do 50+ stadium
- Dec 29, 2020Lightsxo
I mean... yeah???
It’s not relevant to my life so I’m not sure what you’d want me to do lol.
Pretending it like it doesn’t matter is probably one thing you shouldn’t do.
- Dec 29, 2020·2 repliesZezima
The problem with your line of thinking is that you have the best intentions but you ignore history. Why should we all pretend to be equal now, when for hundreds of years Black people were treated as lesser than almost across the whole globe even by their own?
Black people were stripped of their identity for a very long time and you expect us to just be okay with it because it’s not a thing anymore.You can’t erase history just to make yourself feel better.
wasting your time on a racist
- Dec 29, 2020New NIGHTMAN
wasting your time on a racist
Person doesn’t even strike me as a blatant racist. More of a bubble personality, that thinks because it’s not in my small bubble it must not be a problem. It’s more willful ignorance than anything.