how tf do u miss my point this hard

i dont like swizz beats

i dont like his attempt to trademark and commodify something rlly cool

i dont like when ppl d***ride brands

where in there do you see me not f***ing w hip hop

B-But they won’t give us Kodak vs Lil Baby!

It should’ve been Ludacris vs TI since that was the conversation people were having back in the day.
Nelly wasn’t considered a rapper rapper even back then so it looked stupid putting him against Luda who was a real MC

Contrary to popular belief, TI has classics and could hold up well against Wayne too.

The spirit of Verzus is pretty cool

Elite talents playing their hits while fans just come together to rock out.

Trying to monetize that concept was kind of nasty but otherwise, pretty cool.

I think Drake / Ye would be CRAZY and legit break the internet

Hov / Ye

Puff / Jermaine Dupri

"It's for old people"

There were literally teenagers and people in their 20s and 30s watching the Verzuz battles in 2020 and 2021. Was it because they were old, or because they just loved the artists who were having battles and wanted to hear their music in a livestream?

"You're old if you wanna watch that Erykah Badu vs Jill Scott show!"

F*** off cac.

Unotheactivist vs thouxanbanfauni

know what rlly rubs me the wrong way abt verzuz?

its old mfs giving other old mfs awards n s***

a bunch of rich old f***s patting each other on the back n coming together to make some more money off of u. ah but calling it corny means i dont like hip hop yeah okay

You can’t do a Verzuz unless you have a few projects under your belt anyway

*classic projects

Well yea that’s a given

its for old ppl by old ppl. its old ppl giving other old ppl their flowers. its old heads trying to cement themselves as legends. its old heads basically circlejerking. oh and on top of that there's a scheme to make money off of u.

whats not to love?

look for the record i love nas i love jay z i love dipset i thought isley brothers n earth wind n fire coming together was cool as s***. point is, i love old music too but i just cant stand swizz beats or the corny ass atmosphere around verzuz

"Verzus is for old people" is a crazy thing to say because it implies that only old people like to see two artists of the same generation play their hits "against" each other

ageism in general is trash but in this concept it literally makes no sense lol

that's not what im saying

when im talking abt verzuz im not talking abt artists going head 2 head in a discog battle. I'm talking abt the swizz beatz company.

i think artists playing their hits in a sort of competitive concert is a rlly cool idea. I just don't want swizz beats anywhere near that idea

this. this is all im saying

why is nobody hurling personal insults at this guy?

Right buy what about this is for old people though?

I do agree and felt it was pretty cringe when they started to try to monetize it, brand it, and when press releases started popping up for it.

But the culture as a whole being able to come together and basically have a party with two artists playing their records for me is like, a flawless thing

nothing abt two artists facing off is for old ppl

that's not my point

im saying verzuz the company was made by old ppl for old ppl. there's no young artists who get verzuz its old ppl just circlejerking. it's basically a way for the old heads of hip hop to give themselves little awards and s***. tell me that's not kinda cringe

using the word verzuz is giving these cornballs what they want. Swizz beatz wants to infiltrate modern hip hop culture and commodify something as universal as two artists going head to head

Even then i still don't know how ya think the branding and monetization of verzuz is corny lol. Like the artists are getting paid for giving us entertainment

Certain things look it's essence and purity when you try and monetize it and get featured in Rolling stone about it

Necessary evil here, because at the end of the day if it means we get two acts with catalogue going record for record, we win.

But in a vacuum, playing the catalogue of our favorite acts against each other is something that feels like it should be fun, pure, and free.

i mean u remember what they tried to do right?

before verzuz this s*** was happening independently without some central company taking a cut of s***. I forget who it was but there were a few artists at least who went head to head on ig live or some s*** before verzuz

what did verzuz do? it completely killed any independent version of this s*** and then tried to get u to pay for it. Also, who gets to go on and who doesn't is in the hands of swizz beatz. doesn't that bother u

simply put branding and monetizing it was completely unnecessary. the concept was transformed from a rlly cool idea to a way for swizz beats and his friends to give themselves awards

Bro verzuz is still free on ig if u want to watch it. If u want the HD, full viewing of it on tv or whatever It's like only $2 or sum. Ya making it seem like they're asking u to pay 100s to watch. Especially when they STILL offer a free alternative if u don't want to

Drake getting Hov out of here in a Verzuz that's all I know. Gangnm

“They won’t give us Lil Uzi vs DaBaby! Verzuz is old people s***!”

the problem isn't that ppl might have to pay to watch. (well it kind of is but that's not the main point)

the problem is a company trying to take control of something that should not be in control of a company. again, verzuz type hits battles were already happening BEFORE the company popped into existence right? we don't need them to enjoy watching two artists have a hits battle.

now that they're here, hits battles have become restricted to swizz beatz and his friends. I think swizz beats is corny as s*** and i think him being in control of this is gross and lame

think abt this. there is no reason we cant have a carti n uzi verzuz. but that will never happen because verzuz isn't for hip hop its for swizz beatz and his friends