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  • Nov 22, 2020

    forget sometimes how so many people on ktt are like one degree of separation away from ranting on 4chan about 'pc culture'

  • Nov 22, 2020
    HolaHovito

    Change your name to Kendrick “critic bait” Lamar

    your mad cause kendrick puts effort into his work instead of shoveling bullshit out

    Somn drake knows nothing about

  • Nov 22, 2020
    santi

    Lmaooooo f***

  • Nov 22, 2020
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    I’m still waiting for yall to name examples of rappers who have paid for critical acclaim

  • Nov 22, 2020

    Making music for the sake of art

  • Nov 22, 2020
    fatherallah

    political correctness and if you can be used for political currency

  • Nov 22, 2020
    Freight

    If you're a new artist and just having fun with music they love to heap praise on you. Look at Keef. Once you've been around long enough they turn

    They hated on 50

  • Nov 22, 2020
    CLB Fractions

    also theres 4 "critic" reviews 100 90 81 80 that don't even average 93

    its off the strength of the Guardian review cus they value certain places more while calculating

  • Nov 22, 2020
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    bobby j

    I’m still waiting for yall to name examples of rappers who have paid for critical acclaim

    New meg
    Cardi
    Can argue Billie

  • Nov 22, 2020
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    bobby j

    I’m still waiting for yall to name examples of rappers who have paid for critical acclaim

    Clairo
    Billie
    Meg
    Danny Brown
    JPEG
    Earl

    If they’re not overtly paying off the critics they’re being pushed as “woke” “paradigm shifting” or incredibly “important”. This critique is usually more about the artist and their “brand” then their music. Also, this isn’t anything new. There’s always been this transactual relationship between labels/musicians and critics. Of course, some artists cut through without the quid pro quo but its unusual.

  • Nov 22, 2020
    Stantm4444

    Clairo
    Billie
    Meg
    Danny Brown
    JPEG
    Earl

    If they’re not overtly paying off the critics they’re being pushed as “woke” “paradigm shifting” or incredibly “important”. This critique is usually more about the artist and their “brand” then their music. Also, this isn’t anything new. There’s always been this transactual relationship between labels/musicians and critics. Of course, some artists cut through without the quid pro quo but its unusual.

    Clairooos daddddy was the cmo of Converse and some other big ass company.

    So her dad is mad connnected

  • "Jet! You're finally here! Nice to meet you; I'm Vali, I run the venue. Jesus, guys, I wasn't sure you were gonna show up tonight."

    "Sorry, man. You know, b****es."

    "Nice. But listen: You guys got a job to do now. We got a packed house, like, 50,000 s***faced Americans out there and upwards of five Belgian exchange students, all of them dying for a fresh take on the old-school rock 'n' roll. You Aussie sons of b****es think you can handle that? I mean not that I'm worried, I have complete faith in you guys. Just go out there and give them what they want."

    "Wait, man, are you telling us what to do? F*** you, we're Jet! Wherever we play people sleep with us."
    "That's great, but the crowd's getting anxious. You gotta get out there and play 'Last Chance'. People will love the s*** out of that one."

    "Hey, all you American motherfuckers, we're Jet! Here's a song that sounds like AC/DC, a band you love."

    "What the? They're booing?! Guys, quick, get back over here. We gotta rethink our strategy."

    "Man, American crowds are f***ed up. Everybody loves AC/DC. That song is practically an AC/DC song."

    "Guys, guys, don't worry about it, the crowd just needs to get warmed up. Go out there and do your big hit, 'Are You Gonna Be My Girl'. Seriously, the crowd is gonna eat this s*** up. We got all the AV effects you wanted: Right now we got event security bringing out thirty f***in' angry alligators with top hats on, Iggy Pop's gonna shoot out of that cannon, and midway through we're gonna send in the kid from the iPod commercial. Still working on the Oxycontin, though, sorry."

    "Man, that's bullshit!"

    "Listen, Vali, those alligators better be angry."

    "Yeah, and no beret s***, either. The alligators want top hats."

    "Fine, okay, done. Look, the crowd wants you back, just get back out there. Everything's all set. This time, the s***'s gonna rock."

    "Hey a******s, it's us again, Jet! Here's the song you came to hear, a shameless rip-off of 'Lust for Life' by Iggy Pop, who is here with us tonight in this cannon."

    "'Fuck Jet!'"? Is that what the kids are screaming? Woof! Guys, get back here!"

    "I cannot f***ing believe this! Don't these people know who Iggy Pop is?!"

    "Guys, I don't know what to tell you. I think you need to do some ballads. The crowd wants to hear some ballads. You got anything that sounds like Oasis, The Wallflowers, Bon Jovi?"

    "Fuck you, man, we have songs that sound exactly like those guys. These kids won't know the difference. Awright, motherfuckers, let's get out there and melt some hearts. Hello again, Americans! Do you like insipid love songs that sound like wedding band covers? Get ready for five of them!"

    "Jet! You guys are covered in s***! What's going on out there?"

    "They threw their s*** at us!"

    "Wow, I have never seen that happen before. I'm sorry about this, but you guys are gonna need to come up huge. Do you have anything you can do?"

    "We have a couple songs that sound like the Stones."

    "Perfect! Everybody loves the Stones. Just get out there and do them. Maybe throw in a song called 'Get What You Need', which theoretically would sport a pilfered Kinks' guitar riff from 'All Day and All of the Night' and a bassline kidnapped from The Temptations' 'Get Ready'. If there's one thing Americans love, it is Rock-Motown. Just go give them some Stones, which they love, then a little honky-tonk piano because that's awesome, then close with some Rock-Motown."

    "Oh my god, this is terrible. Jet! Come here. Stop playing. Listen, you guys are not going over at all. I can count the people out there on one fist. You better bail out quick."

    "Dude, I don't understand. We sound like everyone's favorite old rock bands, we have insipid lyrics, we say 'Come On!' and 'Oh Yeah!' every five seconds, we have no discernable identity, and we're from Australia. What could people possibly dislike about us?"

    "No idea, brah. Listen, why don't you do one more song, like about how DJs aren't actually musicians and you don't get how they pull tail."

    "Oh, you mean 'Rollover DJ'? The one that goes, 'You've been playing other people's songs all night,' right?"

    "Yes, that is exactly the song I'm talking about."

  • Nov 22, 2020

    Be mysterious

  • Nov 22, 2020

    because female rappers are "in"

    meg's brand is too strong, she was going to get rave reviews regardless

  • Nov 22, 2020

    Lots of wrong answers in this thread. There’s no such thing as making a “good” album if taste is subjective

  • Nov 22, 2020

    Depends on what you’re saying and who you peers are
    The environment when you drop

  • daisycutterflowz

    industrializing the concept of artistic critique means that critics are now less interested in the actual criticism of art and more the survival and growth of their critic business, which means critical thought can be tainted in the name of business growth

    this is a bad thing

    i’m going to frame this post

  • Nov 22, 2020

    I think some critics have a pretty predictable bias. Take fandago for example. He loves abrasive sounding music. Always breaks out the yellow flannel for any heavy metal influenced s***

  • Stantm4444

    Clairo
    Billie
    Meg
    Danny Brown
    JPEG
    Earl

    If they’re not overtly paying off the critics they’re being pushed as “woke” “paradigm shifting” or incredibly “important”. This critique is usually more about the artist and their “brand” then their music. Also, this isn’t anything new. There’s always been this transactual relationship between labels/musicians and critics. Of course, some artists cut through without the quid pro quo but its unusual.

    you really think the last 3 are really paying for good reviews??? i don’t really listen to danny but jpeg and earl are genuinely amazing artists

  • Nov 22, 2020

    A good image, word of mouth, industry ties, content, good music. Could be a number of things really.

  • Nov 22, 2020
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    daisycutterflowz

    industrializing the concept of artistic critique means that critics are now less interested in the actual criticism of art and more the survival and growth of their critic business, which means critical thought can be tainted in the name of business growth

    this is a bad thing

    U r right. Critics feel pressure to stay "relevant". If they are seen as out of touch with the times nobody will pay attention to them. That explains why some s*** like carti or sheck wes achieves "acclaim" despite clearly being trash lol

  • Nov 22, 2020
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    I genuinely think that if you make something experimental and difficult to listen to casually then you will probably get 80+ by default.

    Nah I’m just grossly generalising, but definitely true in some cases!

  • Nov 22, 2020
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    Uhoh

    Its because the reviewers are limp wristed dudes who love listening to girls acting tough as it plays to their cuck fetish and reminds them of their bossy mother

    crazy levels of projecting going on here

    I’m sorry for whatever your father did to you