dude's a fiend. in every meaning of the word.
S***'s so sad to see to be honest
has less to do with toxicity in rap changing and more about who consumes rap
like all forms of entertainment, who the artist is speaking to, who their audience is, is a crucial part of it all.
rappers aren’t trying to impress they og’s, they block, none of that s***. niggas tryna impress suburbanites.
that’s why it’s weird right now, i think it’s a more complex question than “how did it get toxic” bc there’s always been toxic elements.
it’s also kinda of like a chicken and the egg situation. did suburbanites make the culture more toxic, or was the toxic culture allowed for suburbanites to cheer the bullshit on?
idk mane i just want my brothers stop pointing guns towards each other and start pointing guns to this government
Salute
S***'s so sad to see to be honest
It’s even worse up close when your friends have d*** problems. So I can only imagine
@op cmon brah you old
Rap has always been toxic
True, but it’s worse than ever and needs some curbing
@op cmon brah you old
Rap has always been toxic
is 27 really THAT old though?
This site's average age is like 22-23 now, because KTT is a niche community and mostly has users that joined a while back
But I do agree, you gotta read the entire thread though, it was mostly just asking about other people's opinions on it!
It’s even worse up close when your friends have d*** problems. So I can only imagine
America's d*** issues are extremely down played to be honest.
@Jerry_Seinfeld lives in a state with extremely high poverty and he has said that the life conditions are horrible.
Elaborate
we champion "being at the top of the game" and all that comes with it...but we don't look at the fact that sans Jay Z (and that's just out of his own decision to stay private) most of our greats have been miserable.
Eminem almost died in 2006 bruh. And he was at the top. We praying for DMX to recover from an overdose. And he was at the top.
I can see people like Kendrick and Cole look at all the s*** that comes with having to constantly prove yourself again, album after album, hit after hit, with a fanbase that's never satisfied, your demons never being addressed in the slightest, and the stress of never being able to just.....live life for once...
and being like f*** that s***. I wanna be at home with my kids and wife. I truly believe Cole when he says he's gonna retire. Which is funny considering he's one of the most "regular" (as far as background and upbringing) rappers we've had in the last decade or so to somehow come out to be one of the new niggas at the top.
why is this in politics
yeah I don't like that. All it does is kill the f***ing conversation.
They did the same to @YoungNastyShawty thread the other day talking about publications talking about black music.
@sab why was this moved to politics?
yeah I don't like that. All it does is kill the f***ing conversation.
They did the same to @YoungNastyShawty thread the other day talking about publications talking about black music.
@sab why was this moved to politics?
weird, this and the YNS one are some of the best threads about music that i've seen on here lately and actually perpetuate discussion longer than a 1-2 pages or a couple posts making fun of an OP.
we champion "being at the top of the game" and all that comes with it...but we don't look at the fact that sans Jay Z (and that's just out of his own decision to stay private) most of our greats have been miserable.
Eminem almost died in 2006 bruh. And he was at the top. We praying for DMX to recover from an overdose. And he was at the top.
I can see people like Kendrick and Cole look at all the s*** that comes with having to constantly prove yourself again, album after album, hit after hit, with a fanbase that's never satisfied, your demons never being addressed in the slightest, and the stress of never being able to just.....live life for once...
and being like f*** that s***. I wanna be at home with my kids and wife. I truly believe Cole when he says he's gonna retire. Which is funny considering he's one of the most "regular" (as far as background and upbringing) rappers we've had in the last decade or so to somehow come out to be one of the new niggas at the top.
Good point.
No one at the top really has a happy ending
When chance was viscerally attacked online for making an album about getting married and loving his wife
You're right, for a long time, we had an era of positive music. I think it started around 09 with the big 3, when it became more popular in hip-hop to talk about your feelings, and traumatic experiences in a way that inspires growth.
Unfortunately, a resurgence of gangster rap (but trap) has turned a lot of that upside down. Young kids are in the game doing questionable things, life-destroying things. It's awful. It was awful in the early era of rap and it's still awful now.
When chance was viscerally attacked online for making an album about getting married and loving his wife
Looking back, s*** was extremely awful to see
is 27 really THAT old though?
This site's average age is like 22-23 now, because KTT is a niche community and mostly has users that joined a while back
But I do agree, you gotta read the entire thread though, it was mostly just asking about other people's opinions on it!
Haha bro I wish I was still 27. I just mean you're old enough to remember the 97-03ish pre-collab era, which to me was more cutthroat than it is today. I say '97 because that was the height of east-west tensions.
You're right, for a long time, we had an era of positive music. I think it started around 09 with the big 3, when it became more popular in hip-hop to talk about your feelings, and traumatic experiences in a way that inspires growth.
Unfortunately, a resurgence of gangster rap (but trap) has turned a lot of that upside down. Young kids are in the game doing questionable things, life-destroying things. It's awful. It was awful in the early era of rap and it's still awful now.
Real s***, it must have been around that time too.
In the early 2010's the most popular stuff was all pretty chill relaxed and happy. Mid 2010's too.
Even around the 2017-2019 music it was still pretty happy and relaxed.
It was until like COVID hit and s*** that all this went south bro
Agreed with the last statement too
Haha bro I wish I was still 27. I just mean you're old enough to remember the 97-03ish pre-collab era, which to me was more cutthroat than it is today. I say '97 because that was the height of east-west tensions.
All good bro, and yeah that's true I do remember that era. That ruling does make sense though. When stuff shifted.
This makes me think, with how popular drill is again, is Durk now bigger than Chance? 🤔
is it really worth it to be as popular as Durk is if you don't have inner peace? Durk is in constant fear for his life due to the life he lived in the past. Chance can go through an entire day and breathe easy knowing that he doesn't have something weighing on his spirt. even listening to his album the voice Durk seems so unhappy.
America's d*** issues are extremely down played to be honest.
@Jerry_Seinfeld lives in a state with extremely high poverty and he has said that the life conditions are horrible.
I drove by a big ass d*** raid yesterday actually
It does suck here, there are still some good areas left though.
America's d*** issues are extremely down played to be honest.
@Jerry_Seinfeld lives in a state with extremely high poverty and he has said that the life conditions are horrible.
I hope Durk can really hold onto his sobriety man. ppl that connect to him don't need to see him gone due to d****
is it really worth it to be as popular as Durk is if you don't have inner peace? Durk is in constant fear for his life due to the life he lived in the past. Chance can go through an entire day and breathe easy knowing that he doesn't have something weighing on his spirt. even listening to his album the voice Durk seems so unhappy.
I just think the influence on an audience is more dangerous than ever since the rise of social media and especially with the huge glorification of gang culture (mostly Chicago and Detroit, among other places) and gang artists.
America's d*** issues are extremely down played to be honest.
@Jerry_Seinfeld lives in a state with extremely high poverty and he has said that the life conditions are horrible.
What state?
I live in Tennessee. It’s a very interesting situation where my old best friend got addicted to d**** if you want to hear it
competitiveness has always been deeply ingrained in hip hop so rap becoming the biggest genre in the world inevitably led to more toxicity, it's mostly kids who are at the forefront of obsessive fandom, they don't give a s*** about integrity or the history behind the genre and they rule the social media game too, it gets worse when artists are pandering to kids but I'm afraid it's becoming the norm cause that's where the money is