Pretty sure vanilla ice went diamond so I wouldn’t say this

I'm not saying it's a viable way to compare music since like I said, art is subjective. I'm just saying that when it comes to competition in music, the objective facts are gonna be a***yzed similar to sports. Only objective facts in music is how much your music sells

Got you, I see your point

It’s not tho, like objectively lol.

You’d have to ignore Weston Road Flows, From Time, You & The 6, Teenage fever, Redemption, The Ride, Fear, DND, Marvin’s Room, look what you’ve done, f***ing fans, etc

It’s a take that’ll do numbers on Twitter and makes you sound like the smart guy in the room but you’d have to literally ignore the parts of his catalog that have earned him die hard fans.

Beyond that, attributing it to drake shows a shocking lack of knowledge on hip hop history, you don’t even have to go back that far to remember the Ye/50 sales war

A million sold first day I went gold

they didn’t

Ye and 50 weren’t malicious or aggressive with each other the way Drake be dead serious lol

Ignoring that most of these songs are from when Obama was still President, you’re cherry picking girl songs and his more personal records but all in all most of his subject matter is still about being leaps and bounds ahead of niggas in a mostly financial/sales context lol. The way niggas have endless bars about street s*** he has endless bars about how much more he sold than ambiguous niggas lol

Thats in response to Drake fans though lol nobody cared about sales other than same day releases. Now sales are king around here. To this day I could not tell you what MBDTF, TC, GKMC, TPAB, NWTS or WTT sold first week. That was just not a topic of discussion on KTT1. Only when Yeezus/Mac and Cole dropped same day were sales really talked about pre streaming. Pitchfork reviews were viewed on a way higher pedestal than sales on the OG site. These were hilarious

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say you’ve never listened to Jay Z and his braggadocio raps

Again, these takes will do much better on X where people won’t call you out for not knowing what you’re talking about lol

Canada man bad isn’t always an easy way to get likes my boy

idk, whenever society became super consumerist and materialist

Stan twitter took it to another level

canada man bad got me rolling

Overall I’m not sure but on this site it’s something drake stans cling to because they can’t rely on quality of music alone

Sales always mattered. Pac dissed BIG for his album sales in the 90s

1:07 - I came out of jail and sold 5 million... that fat f*** only sold 2 million

Rappers always cared, fans just started caring in the last 8-10 years

Metacritic seems more objective than sales tbh

Or rym

When you realize that most people that use that site are white it becomes alot less objective

Ofc but what sells faster doesn't really mean anything

Radiohead has like 5 albums in the Top 25 of all time on RYM

As they should tho

Plus all those sell crazy anyways?

It just shows that that site caters to one taste, it's not really objective

It just caters to the type of music listener that stans blonde and TPAB and listens to radiohead all day lol

it's cause dudes are npcs and dont actually have any taste or opinions of their own so they latch onto the most popular person because they feel like it's the right thing to do and validates them

I would say those are better than clb which probably sold more?

I'm not basing how good something is on sales, I'll take large amounts of reviews any day