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4y

i don't get this thread

CLB Fractions

4y

most people in usa arnt actually paying 100k. also best hospitals and doctors in the world are in the usa. also they pay taxes toward healthcare so amount an individual their pays over a few years could be higher than their lifetime hospital spending

SpiderMan

4y

Self-taught surgeons? Doctors need education from a proper university, what do you even mean by self-taught, they have to save lives not edit a video for youtube. How do you even propose practicals and lab-work for practice of students aspiring to become doctors being done without proper infrastructure and a proper establishment. Not just universities, even hospitals are learning grounds for medical interns.

1. How would you obtain a lower cost of surgery? Tell me something, does watching a movie in a theatre full of people costs more or renting a whole theatre for yourself does? Does hiring a private educator cost more or studying in an institute where a person teaches to multiple students. If individual clinics become a prominent thing, doctors will likely wont have enough space to even accomodate patients let alone operate on them.During times like COVID, doctors were taking care of over 20 patients here which is only possible in a hospital, in a single clinic you won't be able to have so many people in a place together and it would cost more for a person to get treated, not less.

2. In my country, we have government hospitals which operate for low or no cost and in cases like covid government had put a cap on prices of private hospitals too. You don't want government to not control stuff, you want them to control it well and in a way it benefits you all not the hospitals.

3. Please elaborate on the last 2 points.

Not to mention all this is too impractical, do you have any case study related to your proposal on a massive scale. We had such a thing called Mohalla clinics here basically meaning neighbourhood clinics and it was a massive failure.

Most importantly, for most surgeries you need multiple experts like Anesthesiologist and Radiologist which won't fit in the framework mentioned by you at all.

Muhammed

4y

Did the doctor who invented medical school go to medical school?

RIP CODEINE

4y

i don't get this thread

Twist Your Cap

4y

I think it's people from other countries with weird healthcare standards knocking America's

Muhammed

4y

Did the doctor who invented medical school go to medical school?

valenciaga

4y

He didnt lol

Somebody just randomly said “hey give me 500k and ill teach you what i know”

and they kept the process going and now guys like me have to pay well over 3k to get stiches because my sister kicked me in the eye when i was 8 years old

valenciaga

4y

There’s too much to reply to here so let me put it as simple as possible so u can understand what’s happening here in the USA/on social media here (since ur not american)

By removing hospitals WE (the people) have complete control over our health

Self taught/freelance/local medical care removes the governments ability to control and regulate our health

Like i mentioned earlier, surgery on my lacerated kidney after I got sacked in a game of pickup football costed me well over 10k... if i had went to a local surgeon that DIDNT go to med school and is 500k in debt? Probably would cost me 600-700

As far as anesthesiologists and radiologists go it would be the same procedure. these local non government ran clinics would employ ppl they thought could perform radiology and anesthetics properly.

the entire debate is a “System vs People” standpoint

Abolish hospitals - People caring about people
Keep going as is - supporting the government controlling our health and being pro-corporation

HURRY UP kiddash3r

4y

This is a non issue in any country with free healthcare and education

math fifty

4y

matter fact abolish healthcare institutions all together

lets just start healing ourselves type

HURRY UP kiddash3r

4y

This is a non issue in any country with free healthcare and education

RIP CODEINE

4y

people getting into america's business, nothing new

Twist Your Cap

4y

That's because you have no insurance or trash insurance

we don't need to abolish hospitals we need single payer

you're basically trying to take heroin because you have a headache

valenciaga

4y

I have health insurance lol

I work remotely doing social media outreach and management programs for a decently sized business with stores in many states

My insurance has nothing to do with this, this is a ethics debate

HURRY UP kiddash3r

4y

also best hospitals and doctors in the world are in the usa. also they pay taxes toward healthcare so amount an individual their pays over a few years could be higher than their lifetime hospital spend

Lol

Twist Your Cap

4y

there is a very good reason as to why people seek out going to school here from other countries lol

HURRY UP kiddash3r

4y

Okay? Didnt say anything about that?

Twist Your Cap

4y

How are you paying 10k for surgery then, that makes no sense

we need single payer this abolish hospitals s*** is insane lmao

Twist Your Cap

4y

That's because you have no insurance or trash insurance

we don't need to abolish hospitals we need single payer

you're basically trying to take heroin because you have a headache

valenciaga

4y

Ambulance ride, kidney surgery, 3 day in patient at the hospital

What’s not to understand about the cost?

The guy that sacked me in the game was a pretty huge guy

valenciaga

4y

Ambulance ride, kidney surgery, 3 day in patient at the hospital

What’s not to understand about the cost?

The guy that sacked me in the game was a pretty huge guy

valenciaga

4y

There’s too much to reply to here so let me put it as simple as possible so u can understand what’s happening here in the USA/on social media here (since ur not american)

By removing hospitals WE (the people) have complete control over our health

Self taught/freelance/local medical care removes the governments ability to control and regulate our health

Like i mentioned earlier, surgery on my lacerated kidney after I got sacked in a game of pickup football costed me well over 10k... if i had went to a local surgeon that DIDNT go to med school and is 500k in debt? Probably would cost me 600-700

As far as anesthesiologists and radiologists go it would be the same procedure. these local non government ran clinics would employ ppl they thought could perform radiology and anesthetics properly.

the entire debate is a “System vs People” standpoint

Abolish hospitals - People caring about people
Keep going as is - supporting the government controlling our health and being pro-corporation