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  • May 5, 2021
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    the defining characteristic of art is that it can be critiqued. its inherently anti-authoritarian

    somebody said that already p1 but its all good

  • May 5, 2021
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    Honestly, I think today's critics are too easy on artists if anything. Everything gets a 7 or above

  • May 5, 2021
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    WRU

    the defining characteristic of art is that it can be critiqued. its inherently anti-authoritarian

    somebody said that already p1 but its all good

    i want this to be true

    but i feel like a fantano review disproves this

    and that's kind of my point

  • WRU

    the defining characteristic of art is that it can be critiqued. its inherently anti-authoritarian

    somebody said that already p1 but its all good

    Yeah if we can't even dissect music or discuss in any way that someone may perceive as negative then we're literally mindless drones who can only consume and never actually digest

  • May 5, 2021
    Bourbon Ben

    Honestly, I think today's critics are too easy on artists if anything. Everything gets a 7 or above

    Yeah bc those publications need to maintain their industry ties to keep functioning

    Pitchfork are gonna need that Cardi B interview or her to be lined up on their next festival or whatever

  • May 5, 2021
    Bourbon Ben

    Honestly, I think today's critics are too easy on artists if anything. Everything gets a 7 or above

    what if everything is a 7 or above in their eyes?

  • May 5, 2021

    y'all remember in ratatouille when the critic was burying restaurants with his reviews?

    that's what i'm getting at

  • May 5, 2021
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    Most critics are biased or ridiculously lame anyway when it comes to s*** they dont get. You shouldn't be allowed to critique rap and rnb if you dont come from the same origins unless you prove to be a valid critic. Which most don't.

  • May 5, 2021
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    The same applies to other genres. It would be dumb for some asian kid to be a critic on country music.

  • May 5, 2021
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    Saint Aquinas

    The same applies to other genres. It would be dumb for some asian kid to be a critic on country music.

    I won't go this far.

  • May 5, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    i want this to be true

    but i feel like a fantano review disproves this

    and that's kind of my point

    yall put so much stock into fantano opinions even when he tells you not to its insane

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    May 5, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    i have no problems
    with people not liking art

    but i do have a problem
    with people profiting from
    tearing apart people's hearts

    i know that i'm painting this idealistically

    but truly

    if an artist pours themselves into something

    i do not believe a critic should then criticize it

    i'm not saying they have to like it

    but reviews like Blue Slide Park and Camp

    are over the line

    that's what i'm focusing on

    also the narratives that
    come with the criticisms

    let's look at nas

    he's dealt with that a lot

    why?

    critics

    narratives

    idk, i feel like people/critics should be able to say what they really feel about a piece of art without worrying about whether it could hurt the artists' feelings. but it can definitely be corny/lame/unhelpful to review things negatively in a certain way. i think the point of music journalism should more be to recommend music to people rather than s***ting on it in a way that gets the most clicks and controversy

    what do you mean the Blue Side Park and Camp reviews? any excerpts? i havent heard those albums in full or read anything really

  • May 5, 2021
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    Saint Aquinas

    Most critics are biased or ridiculously lame anyway when it comes to s*** they dont get. You shouldn't be allowed to critique rap and rnb if you dont come from the same origins unless you prove to be a valid critic. Which most don't.

    also what i'm getting at

    there has to be some level of credibility before you have the authority to even speak about an album

    imo

    like who are you to review Jay-Z and Nas

  • May 5, 2021
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    Art would be very boring if you couldn't talk about it or if it didn't inspire thought. Criticism should be a way to help understand things, not just "hating" or loving something

  • May 5, 2021
    Saint Aquinas

    Most critics are biased or ridiculously lame anyway when it comes to s*** they dont get. You shouldn't be allowed to critique rap and rnb if you dont come from the same origins unless you prove to be a valid critic. Which most don't.

  • May 5, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    i want this to be true

    but i feel like a fantano review disproves this

    and that's kind of my point

    You realize the thing about opinions is you can just simply ignore them, right? That's what most people do which is toxic but you're going a step further and come off as wanting to silence them. That's a disturbing thought

  • May 5, 2021
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    TITOWORLD

    I won't go this far.

    Well you cant have it both ways. Most genres are cultured anyway. Modern black music isnt the only form of culture in music

  • May 5, 2021
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    Saint Aquinas

    The same applies to other genres. It would be dumb for some asian kid to be a critic on country music.

    that's a weird thing to say

  • May 5, 2021
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    WRU

    yall put so much stock into fantano opinions even when he tells you not to its insane

    i don't because i don't care

    but it's clear he has an influence

    that's undeniable

  • May 5, 2021

    people rating music out of 10.... I think I'm gonna be sick 🤢

  • May 5, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    also what i'm getting at

    there has to be some level of credibility before you have the authority to even speak about an album

    imo

    like who are you to review Jay-Z and Nas

    You can say that about anything if you want to. How can I say LeBron James is fye if I never played basketball

  • May 5, 2021
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    The Darkest Angel

    You realize the thing about opinions is you can just simply ignore them, right? That's what most people do which is toxic but you're going a step further and come off as wanting to silence them. That's a disturbing thought

    i have repeatedly said i don't want to silence critique or discussion

    but the basis of my argument is

    you can critique something

    without criticizing

  • May 5, 2021
    afterimage

    that's a weird thing to say

    Stereotypes.. even if there's a correlation/probability it doesn't mean there aren't outliers and exceptions to the rule

  • May 5, 2021
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    TITOWORLD

    You can say that about anything if you want to. How can I say LeBron James is fye if I never played basketball

    that's what i'm saying - you cant

  • May 5, 2021
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    You don't have to like everything of course, but being so outward in disliking something is obviously very performative, whereas enjoying something is often more personal and sincere

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