Idk if that's even true honestly. Maybe in non-Western countries.
But Nas and the Wu Tang Clan just had a very successful world tour. Sold out arenas all across Europe and Oceania. Lauryn Hill is doing a show in Australia later this year and I'm seeing ads for it everywhere. In terms of locally produced hip-hop, the UK, Europe and Aus/NZ scenes all seem to be more conscious than the US.

The conditioning is so crazy

There’s no way it isn’t a conspiracy

Societal pressures all line up to push the least healthy things

yo what

I thought that was ur alt for a solid month

This is somewhat my personal opinion and somewhat not, but here what I’ve noticed:

1. A lot of conscious music can’t compete with Twitter, YouTube, or a book. As an example, Kendrick Lamar and Lil Baby have both made songs talking about racism/police brutality but also mentioned black on black crime, which isn’t a real thing (race is not a factor, violence is always committed between people in closer proximity to you. This unfortunately mirrors a lot of conservative tactics). So frankly, there are smarter people and just a lot of different avenues to hear these ideas that people don’t need to get it from music.

2. It’s actually natural for the response to trauma being to seek escapism. Now, lyrically some rappers made say the same s*** and rap about death or d****, but the type of music they make is less about paying close attention to the lyrics, and using the voice as an instrument that’s sound and flow compliments a beat, usually to dance or mosh to. This can be cathartic to a lot of people. Nothing wrong with that even if it’s not everybody’s thing.

I don’t agree tbh. Feel like for every one guy on here who behaves like this there are like thirty who don’t

Like are we really implying this site doesn’t love TPAB now cmon

why don’t you take a stroll in the sales thread and see what quality of music discussion goes on in there

the mere existence of the sales thread on this site is to gas and hype up mainstream artists making “whip music”

absolutely not 😭 nigga making me look horrible

Did I say something crazy? Lol

Isn’t that kinda what i mean though? It’s a minority of users that had to be cordoned off in their own thread because the rest of the site was so sick of sales talk

KTT1 liked TPAB but KTT2 doesn't. Ironically the biggest people complaining about TPAB on this site are from the KTT1 era though. You know who, the usual suspects who don't even listen to hip-hop like that anymore but still come here to troll.

This exact type of thread was made constantly on ktt1 though

a) kendrick lamar clarified that he was speaking for himself vs the black community on that song

b) naming Twitter as if it’s some intellectual hub of discussion and information is absolutely hilarious

c) an artist being carried by the instrumental of an song is inherently less skilled or talented than someone who can be captivating on an instrumental that isn’t as flashy or layered, that isn’t even up for discussion as far as im concerned, so yes there is “something wrong with it” lol

all this thread really gives off is most y’all not even hip hop fans, y’all are pop fans lol

all of the greatest albums and artists this genre has seen were (or had) absolutely brilliant writing/pens, now we have niggas trying to excuse artists for being carried by instrumentals and/or dismissing people who actually put substance in their writing as “boring” lol under the guise “it’s everyone’s music” and im far from a conscious rap fan like that

no wonders i saw niggas unironically putting Future, Thug and Carti in their all time lists, y’all are the reason why this genre is in the s***ter

I think you’re reading too much into what I said, fam. Again, some of that is not my personal opinion, it’s what I’ve noticed.

A. I don’t see how that clarification undoes the point of him mentioning something that isn’t real and mirrors a conservative talking point. I love Kendrick. Doesn’t erase that him calling himself a hypocrite in that song as of the two things were the same wasn’t dumb.
B. I personally hate Twitter but we’d both be lying if we acted like there aren’t some smart people on there who start smart discussions. I could also include IG with its Infograph’s but I don’t think this is that deep to be hyper specific about.
C. I never said it’s more skilled or talented, I said that’s what the music is going for and that’s what a lot of people like about it. I’m not sure where you got the idea that I compared skill level?

that’s a good way to avoid having to defend your position, by claiming that’s what you saw elsewhere

a) it does absolve him, because he wasn’t saying “buh wuh buh black on black cryme” he was calling himself a hypocrite for protesting over Trayvon, in spite of him having killed someone lol even if it was brought forth out of bad conditions, it is objectively hypocritical

b) nope.

c) buddy, you said there’s nothing wrong with it; i think there’s something wrong with it. hence why im mentioning it and giving my reasoning as to why

My nigga I don’t quite see why this is a fight? We’re talking about ideas. I don’t really like “mosh rap” but I’ve spoken to people about what they like and why so that’s what isn’t my personal opinion but what I’ve heard people say. I really don’t think that’s a big deal or a suggestion of skill being higher or lower, just different. Why are we fighting? Lol

A. I disagree, but again, I love Kendrick. I’m not calling him the worst person ever. I think calling yourself a hypocrite about two completely different systemic issues is short sighted and he’s smarter than that.
B. That’s cool. Ive person seen some cool things from journalist and activist online but if you haven’t, that’s your experience. Again, I don’t see why that’s worth vitriol.
C. Okay. But you really think there’s something wrong with people liking music you don’t care for?

again youre being obtuse lmao discussion about those artists is largely limited to a small portion of users on here

the majority of this site isnt talking about niche internet rappers period let alone positively and u know that

niggas have been calling tpab critic bait and white ppl music since it dropped

Just go and support conscious rap if you f*** with it like that

Go to the shows

By the merch

Gas the threads on it make tweets about it

Conscious rap would be at the forefront if this was happening but niggas do not f*** with it like that and that’s okay. You are not better or more enlightened than the next person just because you like a different style of rap music

1-800 then I kill the p****, who can relate?

-wasnt on ktt1

It’s still memed that tpAb has no bangers

ktt2.com/ayo-how-this-philly-nigga-made-one-of-the-craziest-jersey-club-beats-32555874

ktt2.com/noname-debuts-4-new-joints-at-young-world-3-snippets-itt-32553618

ktt2.com/cisco-swank-more-better-the-kids-are-gon-be-alright-32550091

ktt2.com/yaya-bey-and-why-shes-probably-dropped-the-album-of-the-year-32538905

ktt2.com/the-best-combination-of-rock-hip-hop-ive-ever-heard-and-other-32508276

ktt2.com/these-the-2-best-rap-albums-of-the-year-so-far-32498603

Barking up the wrong tree my nigga