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    He got good albums but really got exposed as corporate cornball and not the enlightened “assata taught me” revolutionary he acted like he was.

    Plus he dissed drake for absolutely no reason just corn

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    Oct 31, 2023
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    americana

    he was fire in john wick 2

    Def weird he got killed off so quick, coulda been a cool recurring antagonist

  • Oct 31, 2023

    What makes you say he doesn’t get mentioned? He’s definitely a legend in the game & has had several great moments & albums. He gets his credit & respect

  • Oct 31, 2023

    Probably because of the real rappers is hard to find like a remote line

  • cause he's sexy and it makes these rap nerds so uncomfortable

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    Purrp

    Def weird he got killed off so quick, coulda been a cool recurring antagonist

    He wasn’t killed off and his role wasn’t as an antagonist

    It was simple business, and that’s why he wasn’t killed off by John

  • Purrp 🌚
    Oct 31, 2023
    americana

    He wasn’t killed off and his role wasn’t as an antagonist

    It was simple business, and that’s why he wasn’t killed off by John

    Unmemorable I suppose, my least fav JW movie

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    Preme55_

    He got good albums but really got exposed as corporate cornball and not the enlightened “assata taught me” revolutionary he acted like he was.

    Plus he dissed drake for absolutely no reason just corn

    I think this is unfair

    Common might’ve come off corny in certain situations but I don’t think that means he’s a fraud or anything like you’re implying

    The formula got watered down when he started working with John Legend but he got to that point because he was good at making legitimately good and powerful songs about the issues

    Why won’t we see the same “corporate” criticism for Jay Z?

    Common was just trying to keep his career going while speaking on things he cared about. But that’s seen as more corny than pushing the typical message of d****, I wonder why that is?

    If you ever thought he was a legit revolutionary that’s on you but he’s a thoughtful and progressive dude especially for his time. He got sucked into the modern liberalism but I’m not holding that against him that hard.

  • Oct 31, 2023
    Peace Kid

    there were too many conscious rappers out at the time. he lived in the shadows of ye, mos def and talib.

    Common is easily better than Ye and Talib lyrically lol.

  • Oct 31, 2023

    Name that 20

    There’s lowkey not 5 rappers with better catalogs but I do get the “compelling” argument, it’s valid

    His album making puts him over people without stellar catalogs for me though. There’s solid and there’s stellar

  • Oct 31, 2023
    Peace Kid

    there were too many conscious rappers out at the time. he lived in the shadows of ye, mos def and talib.

    This isn’t true. Common and Mos were the leaders of the backpack movement

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    2words

    I think this is unfair

    Common might’ve come off corny in certain situations but I don’t think that means he’s a fraud or anything like you’re implying

    The formula got watered down when he started working with John Legend but he got to that point because he was good at making legitimately good and powerful songs about the issues

    Why won’t we see the same “corporate” criticism for Jay Z?

    Common was just trying to keep his career going while speaking on things he cared about. But that’s seen as more corny than pushing the typical message of d****, I wonder why that is?

    If you ever thought he was a legit revolutionary that’s on you but he’s a thoughtful and progressive dude especially for his time. He got sucked into the modern liberalism but I’m not holding that against him that hard.

    it’s not unfair at all. How you gonna write a song about assata then double down on it in your biography then d***ride Obama and the democrats the politics don’t align.

    I don’t say the same about Jay z cause Jay z spoke about selling crack his whole career 😂 I did call him dumb when he wore the Che shirt though

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    I'm not from Chi City but I'm Common on the corner

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    Tubig

    I actually had a customer who had Go! As their ringtone just the other day

    The people still know

    Niggas still got ring tones?

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    Preme55_

    it’s not unfair at all. How you gonna write a song about assata then double down on it in your biography then d***ride Obama and the democrats the politics don’t align.

    I don’t say the same about Jay z cause Jay z spoke about selling crack his whole career 😂 I did call him dumb when he wore the Che shirt though

    4:44 was jay switching up tho

    For someone of his age I think falling into the Obama trap was easier than you’re giving credit for. It might not line up in retrospect but he’s not the only former supposed radical who was pushing Obama

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    It's okay to not f*** with Common or his music.

    But some of these takes are terrible.

    I swear...one of the downsides to Ye stannery dying off on KTT is that KTT is basically now ATRL 2.0 where many people judge greatness mostly off of sales, popularity, and "impact."

    Who cares if Suzie soccer mom or casual rap fans on Tik Tok don't know who Common is or don't know about his musical contribution?

    That should never be the basis for how you rank a rapper in a GOAT conversation lol.

    Niggas really saying Common is too "underground" to be in a GOAT conversation.

    Ya'll probably would've used that same argument against Rakim in favor of Snoop Dogg if KTT2 existed in 1994 lol.

  • Oct 31, 2023

    I put him in the top 30 oat

  • Tubig 🌊
    Oct 31, 2023
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    lacriminal

    Niggas still got ring tones?

    lol man where I’m at ya ive heard some wild ones too

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    Tubig

    lol man where I’m at ya ive heard some wild ones too

    like what? Lol

  • Oct 31, 2023
    Kdogone

    San Antonio Spurs/Tim Duncan status
    Not flashy/commercial enough to get ranked higher
    Cemented legend tho

    there ya go

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    2words

    4:44 was jay switching up tho

    For someone of his age I think falling into the Obama trap was easier than you’re giving credit for. It might not line up in retrospect but he’s not the only former supposed radical who was pushing Obama

    Jay has been a capitalist his whole career whether he talking about d**** or talking about his 40 40 club he’s been consistent in his message so I don’t get the comparison

    This is a Common thread though so lmk when we in another rappers thread who shrouded themselves in Obama and I’ll let you know

    but my conscious goat Lupe was never with the bullshit

  • Oct 31, 2023

    There was a time when Common could’ve been the top rapper in the game

  • Oct 31, 2023

    He does though.

  • Oct 31, 2023

    Hes great and I actually listen to him a lot but he was always missing like one thing I cant put my finger on to be one of my GOATs

  • Oct 31, 2023
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    Preme55_

    He got good albums but really got exposed as corporate cornball and not the enlightened “assata taught me” revolutionary he acted like he was.

    Plus he dissed drake for absolutely no reason just corn

    Unfair assessment

    I really don’t like how people will discredit peoples life work because they contradict themselves occasionally like humans aren’t living contradictions