Oct 31, 2023
Preme55_Jay has been a capitalist his whole career whether he talking about d**** or talking about his 40 40 club he’s been consistent in his message so I don’t get the comparison
This is a Common thread though so lmk when we in another rappers thread who shrouded themselves in Obama and I’ll let you know
but my conscious goat Lupe was never with the bullshit
I’m a big fan of Lupe but Commons catalog clears with ease
I guess I’m not even as pressed on these guys ideology so I’m not holding “conscious” rappers to a different standard like you seem to be.
- Oct 31, 2023
mr get doughUnfair assessment
I really don’t like how people will discredit peoples life work because they contradict themselves occasionally like humans aren’t living contradictions
Real, that’s so harsh and bad faith to do that to common, dude obviously means well
- Oct 31, 2023·1 replymr get dough
Unfair assessment
I really don’t like how people will discredit peoples life work because they contradict themselves occasionally like humans aren’t living contradictions
Yeah humans are walking contradictions sure I just don’t respect bourgeois blacks who make a name off being for the people then turn around become a corporate clown but that’s me
Oct 31, 2023Good lookin shouting him out, OP. He is a cemented legend and I do wish he was mentioned more
Tubig 🌊Oct 31, 2023
lacriminallike what? Lol
Heard someone with Mexican Radio by SPM as their ringtone last year
Oct 31, 2023lacriminalI'm not from Chi City but I'm Common on the corner
Oct 31, 2023·2 repliesBecause he's got albums but not songs
Be comes to people's minds before any track off it
Oct 31, 20232wordsUnderrated
The ambition and scope of that album for its time is insane. Anyone who praises TPAB and not that album is asleep
Yeah I agree. That album is so much better. It’s beautiful what common did with that album.
Oct 31, 2023BD32Because he's got albums but not songs
Be comes to people's minds before any track off it
incorrect. Go is a song every true hiphop fan recognizes as a great single
- Oct 31, 2023·1 reply
Bobby_96It's okay to not f*** with Common or his music.
But some of these takes are terrible.
I swear...one of the downsides to Ye stannery dying off on KTT is that KTT is basically now ATRL 2.0 where many people judge greatness mostly off of sales, popularity, and "impact."
Who cares if Suzie soccer mom or casual rap fans on Tik Tok don't know who Common is or don't know about his musical contribution?
That should never be the basis for how you rank a rapper in a GOAT conversation lol.
Niggas really saying Common is too "underground" to be in a GOAT conversation.
Ya'll probably would've used that same argument against Rakim in favor of Snoop Dogg if KTT2 existed in 1994 lol.
That’s what I’m saying cause bruh it just ruins the creative and artistic side of it. Like damn the greats didn’t make classics so it could sell good they made them to surpass their idols and so they tried extra hard just to make classics.
- Oct 31, 2023·1 replyDorian
That’s what I’m saying cause bruh it just ruins the creative and artistic side of it. Like damn the greats didn’t make classics so it could sell good they made them to surpass their idols and so they tried extra hard just to make classics.
Exactly.
Ghostface is in my top 10 and that nigga was never a crossover star nor does he have the "stats" or "numbers" to line up.
Claiming that a rapper doesn't have enough crossover appeal or popularity to be in a GOAT conversation is hilarious for a rap forum.
I could see this argument on Stan Twitter or ATRL or Deuxmoi but KTT2?
Just feels out of place for a forum that used to pride itself on valuing discography, talent, and creativity over sales.
Prez 💎Oct 31, 2023He’s a legend but he’s never been top 10 to me
- Oct 31, 2023
He's in my top 15, top 10 most days
- Oct 31, 2023Bobby_96
Exactly.
Ghostface is in my top 10 and that nigga was never a crossover star nor does he have the "stats" or "numbers" to line up.
Claiming that a rapper doesn't have enough crossover appeal or popularity to be in a GOAT conversation is hilarious for a rap forum.
I could see this argument on Stan Twitter or ATRL or Deuxmoi but KTT2?
Just feels out of place for a forum that used to pride itself on valuing discography, talent, and creativity over sales.
Yeah that s*** is dumb. We’re just dumbing it down.
OPOct 31, 2023BD32Because he's got albums but not songs
Be comes to people's minds before any track off it
We just gonna act like he ain’t drop I Used To Love H.E.R.?
Also going by that same logic Nas is the goat but do people think of any Nas song before they think of Illmatic?
Oct 31, 2023
Smacked VoodooThread got some absolutely putrid takes.
- Oct 31, 2023
my hot take is common doesn't have the 'goat appeal'. same reason why we dont talk about Aesop Rock as the goat. not the right image, but bar-wise Common is among the best of the best
- Oct 31, 2023
also his music got too lowkey in the latter half of the decade, if he did Nobody's Smiling type of projects at least semi-regularly we'd talk about him more
Oct 31, 2023Common needs to be with the right people, I think once he tried to thrust himself into the mainstream he literally got lost in the sauce, doesn’t take away what he did wrong prior to that, he’s made some very culturally significant pieces of work
Oct 31, 2023
So IllegalLegend but got washed by Drake
Who got washed by a fellow GOOD Music member
- Oct 31, 2023Smacked Voodoo
Thread got some absolutely putrid takes.
Oct 31, 2023Bobby_96It's okay to not f*** with Common or his music.
But some of these takes are terrible.
I swear...one of the downsides to Ye stannery dying off on KTT is that KTT is basically now ATRL 2.0 where many people judge greatness mostly off of sales, popularity, and "impact."
Who cares if Suzie soccer mom or casual rap fans on Tik Tok don't know who Common is or don't know about his musical contribution?
That should never be the basis for how you rank a rapper in a GOAT conversation lol.
Niggas really saying Common is too "underground" to be in a GOAT conversation.
Ya'll probably would've used that same argument against Rakim in favor of Snoop Dogg if KTT2 existed in 1994 lol.
Oct 31, 20232nd husband energy maybe even 3rd
Oct 31, 2023WTF how does The People have 670M listens on spotify??? did it get some tiktok push
Oct 31, 2023He was never in the super mainstream like that
More known for acting and only really appeals to use hardcore hip-hop fans