Sorry outro*

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Foreal. I really don’t think Travis had much impact in the making of Yeezus

why can't this argument be used for other artists then lol

when any other artist does it ppl say they are "stealing" other peoples sound

the fact that ppl talking about the travis-yeezus thing and letting the big sean-grad pass got me crine

I feel like he impacted the aura and mythos of yeezus more than the actual compositions . Ye was putting him on game at that time and bringing him everywhere

There’s video evidence for Big Sean

Why is OP a bundle of sticks?

kanye was the one singing the whole time

Somewhere modeling underwear

Maybe cuz he produced all tracks, wrote majority and created the sound. Please don't pretend 808's and MOTM sound similar, cuz they don't, 808's way darker and more minimal, thats all YE

cudi helped with like 3 songs, weeknd wrote about half of take care...

huge difference lmao

20 songs
Weeknd credited on 4
20/2=10
Someone’s lying here

oh please

"It's called tagging

Sometimes another artist will help change some of the words so the lyrics flow better. Just because a artist lends a tag, doesn't mean he gets credit for the song. This happens all the time in the studio.

Comedians do this with each other too."

Cudi actually gets way too much credit for 808s.

he was credited for 5 tracks sure. shot for me, crew love, cameras, practice, the ride. the album had 18 songs. that’s already more than a quarter confirmed.

weeknd is well known for being a drake ghostwriter during that period, it’s very likely that he wrote more on it that he wasn’t credited for.

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okay so I dug up some facts from the sources

NO I.D. on the Juan Epstine podcast:

“The 808 records came out of doing The Blueprint 3 records,” the Chicago producer told the hip-hop nerdcast. “Matter of fact, when we did ‘Heartless,’ he just stopped and said, ‘No.’ I was like, ‘No what?’ He was like, ‘No way! This is my record!’ I was like, ‘Come on man. Can we just finish the guy’s album man?’ He was like, ‘Nope. I’m doing an album.’”

Inspiration came at a cost, though—at least for No I.D. He was the one that had to tell Jay Z that ‘Ye was dropping everything to create his own auto-tuned LP.

“In the middle of that, we do that in about 3-4 weeks then he goes on tour and Jay Z is like, ‘What happened? Where are my... what happened?” he added. “I tell Jay, ‘Yo, man it’s gonna be hard to finish this man, you probably need to come to Hawaii man. Come on man please come out there.'”

Jay went out and the current executive vice president of Def Jam floated him the “Death of Auto-Tune” beat and the rest is music history"

and here's Cudi talking about his work on BP3 which a piece of Welcome To Heart Break came out of

youtu.be/tamAldKgjGg

okay so chronologically

1. 1 Kanye heard the beat for Heartless while Jay was in the room and decided he was going to keep it for himself and create an auto tune album

2. for context Jay goes on tour
Start date March 22, 2008
End date May 10, 2008

3. June 3rd 2008 Kanye and Jeezy release put on. Objectively the closest thing to 808s before 808s is this verse on Put On

So kanye already has the idea for 808s, heard heartless beat, and recorded a verse that show the sound has already been invented and waiting to be pieced together

4. July 17th 2008 A Kid Named Cudi is released

5. Kanye hears Kid Cudi's tape and calls him to invite him to work on BP3 in Hawaii

There's no dispute that the sound and vibe of 808s was already set. Kid Cudi is the polisher of 808s not the welder. Unless you want to beef with father time there's nothing else to be said

808s sounds more like a Mr. Hudson album then a Cudi album to me IMO

808s is all Kanyes vision executed.

However, 808s was hugely inspired by Cudi's mixtape, AKNC, which they both have confirmed before in interviews.

It made Kanye want to openly express his emotions and be emotionally transparent.

Finally, Kanye enlisted Cudi to help write on the album. Yes, Cudi did the hook for Heartless

People give too much credit to Cudi for this one. But without Cudi, who knows if 808s would have came out, or if it would be as good as it is.

Because he made it

cudi does get his credit for that album, most people know cudi brought a lot to the table for certain songs on that album.