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Demonization of nicotine compared to other substances always been a weird to me

Whipped coffee

Don't gotta use moo sauce , even almond

Never been addicted to the big three of Alcohol, D****, or Caffeine, so I've been using that money for food and s*** for myself.

cigs hit hard with other substances like alcohol but on their own all I get is an annoying head rush

Yk what f*** it ima make a thread im taking a shyt anyway

Multitasking Mamba

damn whippin ur coffee cus u whipped by coffee the struggle is real

That caffeine induces vroductivity

I didn't drink coffee until I was around 24 and before that I def struggled to get up early and used harder d**** to get myself going, so def don't recommend that, coffee has been a much healthier route for me. I also sleep much better now tho with a regular schedule and not up at all hours of the night.

You don't recommend not drinking coffee?

I get the Jade Leaf ones and half a teaspoon is equivalent to about 1/3 of a cup of coffee. I usually only drink 1 cup of matcha a day too, and like 2-3 cups of regular green tea.

I don't recommend lines of speed in the morning over coffee lmao

Yeah but which one is a faster pick-me-up tho

I mean das not what I said but I can agree with that

We all know the answer to this

it looks delicious tho

A coffee addiction is objectively in no way as bad as alcohol/drug addiction lmao. Idk why OP is even trying to steer it that way. Nobody is out here spending their entire paycheck and getting arrested over a Starbucks drink.

Coffee daily/frequently is relatively harmless for 99% of the population. Only common bad effects are teeth decay and whatnot. Which is similar to the public eating fast food, junk food, soda, candy, etc everyday. Everyone has some poison they pick with food and drink consumption. If you’re gonna start a discussion on coffee then we need to have a discussion on every other damn thing in people’s diet too.

Why you think they cracked down on opium (after warring for and profiting off it) - they don't want you lying around like this all day:

When I’m at a coffee date or wtv, I get an affigato to show off my BDE.

Its not a big deal dont be dramatic

What @hpsplyr21 said in the other thread applies even better here I think

“I think the big reason is the ambiguity. we know the harms of liquor they've been documented for years and years. this new tech is unproven yet in terms of health effects, to my knowledge at least. anyone who is ever trying to get off it thinks it'll be the same as cigs were. that we didnt know the negative effects until we were already addicted, so have to stop now.“

It’s normalized because it is, simply put, more normalized, which in turn is because it is, well, more normal

Across human societies for dozens of generations, people have been drinking coffee or tea or imbibing caffeine for long enough to see that while it is certainly possible to develop an “unhealthy relationship” with caffeine, and while en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeinism is indeed not fun at all — I had awful heart palpitations that could be triggered by caffeine use a lot during 2020 — it has enough of a track record to see that on a society-wide level it is not that dysfunctional

Pharma stimulants are relatively young, and in the first generation of use they seemed like they were all benefits and no drawbacks

But relatively quickly and increasingly we can see how first s*** like Pervitin and now s*** like adderall is more dangerous than caffeine. Those heart palpitations I mentioned could be triggered by caffeine, but they were first induced by going too hard on Ritalin.

per La Wik, “global consumption of caffeine has been estimated at 120,000 tonnes per year, making it the world's most popular psychoactive substance… and amounting to an average of one serving of a caffeinated beverage for every person every day.” Can you imagine the world if we collectively were taking that amount of meth instead of caffeine?

Alcohol is also as normalized in a sense but by the same token it’s regulated and criminalized (for driving and for minors, anyway) and seen as appropriately more dangerous in line with the fact that two Four Lokos every day will f*** your life up more than two Red Bulls

Now what’s funny is that Tobacco use was basically just as normalized in at least American life until the second half of the twentieth century — its genuinely amazing that they got cigs out of here as fast and to the extent that they did. That’s a bit more complex to explain

Iced coffee and pizza

that caffeine rush is crazy tho if ur tolerance is low

5 hour energy be havin me