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  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Gee, I wonder what systems have been put in place that have caused these issues to happen to black people...

    good question

    could have something to do with incentivising single parenthood by providing welfare for single black mothers that makes it logically better to divorce and collect that than make a marriage work

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    You can't call for a nuclear family when the concept of it was hardly ever meant to include blacks to begin with.

    The “system” invented moms and dads yeah

  • DEL_3352

    good question

    could have something to do with incentivising single parenthood by providing welfare for single black mothers that makes it logically better to divorce and collect that than make a marriage work

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Legendary

    The “system” invented moms and dads yeah

  • Yeah these niggas ed and I don't need to deal with this at 8AM, y'all figure it out.

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    You can't call for a nuclear family when the concept of it was hardly ever meant to include blacks to begin with.

    dumbest thing ive ever read

  • Jul 6, 2020
    Smacked Voodoo

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Police have the mandate of the state. They are "law enforcement". What law are they enforcing when murdering innocent people? Yet the state tolerates this. Therefore, there has to be some unwritten law, some logic under which the police state functions. That law or logic is white supremacy, the suppression of the masses and spreading fear to placate people into staying in their place. These killings are institutionalized state terrorism, not random acts of violence.

    A gangster operates outside the law. He has no qualified immunity, no democratic legitimization, no badge or uniform. He lives and dies by the sword and has never claimed to adhere to any law other than an arbitrary street code. He is not tasked by the state to carry out its force.

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Shayarahlah

    I hear that... but I am always cautious of the obvious disdain religion and its pungent stench shaping social hemispheres and ideals, wilfully being forced upon minorities as a part of indoctrination, breeding LGBTQ+phobias

    I'd think we should at least use its inclusion as a means to acknowledge minorities within minorities being at greater risk from violence from all sides of the spectrum, slowly but surely ushering in integration. I feel as if too many people see it as a this or that concept, when they just truly aren't comfortable with their existence and often mask their disdain through otherwise, fair points. That's a different conversation entirely tho

    I see where you're coming from and agree. However, this isn't the time, just like we don't acknowledge black violence in gangs, I'm going to ignore all phobias (not because idc) but because the work needs to be done on the police's side
    Restoring our community(no more violence, phobias etc) can be done simultaneously. My issue is that it isn't.
    I need to see them the same pressure on police reform than they are on community reform.
    This seems like utopian dreams being played off as activism, focusing on it is taking energy away from issues that can be resolved with simple legislation
    Changing print is easier than changing minds, is what im saying.

  • Jul 6, 2020
    DEL_3352

    you do realise there's a direct correlation between single black mothers and boys doing horribly in school and turning to crime right?

    who cares that the nuclear family is an 'old and conservative' idea. its a fantastic idea, and every kid thats born today should hope they have a mum and dad that love them

    f***ing ridiculous that i even need to type this stuff

  • Jul 6, 2020
    DEL_3352

    i grew up with my single mum, and my grandma

    alternative structures are rubbish

    communes in the 60s and 70s resulted in child abuse, there is no alternative proven to be better

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    DEL_3352

    dumbest thing ive ever read

    I wrote a whole thesis paper on the topic using multiple easy to find and READ resources that point out the failures of the nuclear family and how systemic racism kept black people from attaining it since the abolishment of slavery in the US.

    Google is free and easy to use. You can figure it out yourself. It'll honestly only take you ten minutes.

    I got breakfast to make.

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    DEL_3352

    i grew up with my single mum, and my grandma

    alternative structures are rubbish

    communes in the 60s and 70s resulted in child abuse, there is no alternative proven to be better

    That’s your opinion, I don’t agree or disagree with it but I don’t see the problem with opening the door for people to live in a different way - and again I don’t see presenting the alternative as being the same thing as advocating the collapse of the nuclear family.

    And at this current time child abuse is overwhelmingly perpetrated by close relatives of the child who gain contact via the nuclear family structure.

    The sad reality is that no family structure will ever safeguard children from abuse. In truth I’d argue that a properly run commune could actually be a better solution to this problem - if there’s proper accountability then you’d imagine that child abuse in that structure would be much easier to spot than in the case of a small nuclear family where the abuser is more able to cut off contact between the child and the outside world

  • Jul 6, 2020
    ARCADE GOON

    Police have the mandate of the state. They are "law enforcement". What law are they enforcing when murdering innocent people? Yet the state tolerates this. Therefore, there has to be some unwritten law, some logic under which the police state functions. That law or logic is white supremacy, the suppression of the masses and spreading fear to placate people into staying in their place. These killings are institutionalized state terrorism, not random acts of violence.

    A gangster operates outside the law. He has no qualified immunity, no democratic legitimization, no badge or uniform. He lives and dies by the sword and has never claimed to adhere to any law other than an arbitrary street code. He is not tasked by the state to carry out its force.

    Yo been tryna make this point for some time and you’ve put infinitely better than I ever could

  • Jul 6, 2020
    ARCADE GOON

    Police have the mandate of the state. They are "law enforcement". What law are they enforcing when murdering innocent people? Yet the state tolerates this. Therefore, there has to be some unwritten law, some logic under which the police state functions. That law or logic is white supremacy, the suppression of the masses and spreading fear to placate people into staying in their place. These killings are institutionalized state terrorism, not random acts of violence.

    A gangster operates outside the law. He has no qualified immunity, no democratic legitimization, no badge or uniform. He lives and dies by the sword and has never claimed to adhere to any law other than an arbitrary street code. He is not tasked by the state to carry out its force.

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Black on black crime is a counterpoint used by white people to justify their lack of compassion for the plight of black and brown people. Statistically speaking, white People kill almost as many white people as black people kill black people. It’s less to do about race and more to do about proximity. With that being said, it’s an issue we as a community must address. Personally, I believe we need to adopt a zero tolerance policy and harsh consequences for those who violate within our community but that’s just me.

  • Jul 6, 2020
    FlyMx

    Black on black crime is a counterpoint used by white people to justify their lack of compassion for the plight of black and brown people. Statistically speaking, white People kill almost as many white people as black people kill black people. It’s less to do about race and more to do about proximity. With that being said, it’s an issue we as a community must address. Personally, I believe we need to adopt a zero tolerance policy and harsh consequences for those who violate within our community but that’s just me.

  • allmygirlsdoyoga

    POC solidarity doesn’t do s*** for the black community. It’s more of a one sided street because hispanics and asians will always be super anti black

    it's a vicious cycle because if you question an asian on anti black they will say it's because black people target them for crimes and are racist towards them. and they have the stats to back it up.

    Hispanic/black relations I'm not sure but they are on much better terms than asians/blacks thats for sure.

  • Jul 6, 2020
    DonutHole

    I see where you're coming from and agree. However, this isn't the time, just like we don't acknowledge black violence in gangs, I'm going to ignore all phobias (not because idc) but because the work needs to be done on the police's side
    Restoring our community(no more violence, phobias etc) can be done simultaneously. My issue is that it isn't.
    I need to see them the same pressure on police reform than they are on community reform.
    This seems like utopian dreams being played off as activism, focusing on it is taking energy away from issues that can be resolved with simple legislation
    Changing print is easier than changing minds, is what im saying.

    Ah yes! It would seem like an uphill battle if there's so many catalyst fuelling said issues, which can be solved through altering the system, rather than collective minds. Generations subconsciously fall in line with the bigger picture being painted by the system, I get you

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    The Infinite M

    But you suggested 9 out of 10 which would imply that the majority of cops are racist which is bullshit fam

    Is he saying 9/10 cops in general or 9/10 of the cops that kill black people

    It sounds like he's saying the latter. Those are not the same

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    DEL_3352

    good question

    could have something to do with incentivising single parenthood by providing welfare for single black mothers that makes it logically better to divorce and collect that than make a marriage work

    You genuinely believe that providing welfare to single parents incentivises then to divorce?

    You’d rather eliminate social security in society to force people into staying in unhappy/abusive marriages, as the only alternative could then become poverty?

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Smacked Voodoo

    I wrote a whole thesis paper on the topic using multiple easy to find and READ resources that point out the failures of the nuclear family and how systemic racism kept black people from attaining it since the abolishment of slavery in the US.

    Google is free and easy to use. You can figure it out yourself. It'll honestly only take you ten minutes.

    I got breakfast to make.

    congratulations bro

    you think i havent read anything on this topic?

    is your thesis supposed to be the holy grail on this topic or something?

    f*** outta here, eat your breakfast

  • Synopsis

    i can see why the girl your talking to doesnt fw you lmao

  • Jul 6, 2020
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    Swz3000

    You genuinely believe that providing welfare to single parents incentivises then to divorce?

    You’d rather eliminate social security in society to force people into staying in unhappy/abusive marriages, as the only alternative could then become poverty?

    i like how you're trying to put words in my mouth

    people shouldn't even be in situation that would cause them to make such a decision, obviously

    social security is good thing, until there's too much of it and it can be abused

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