oh god its called zoomer gaze? I thought dream punk was bad

I mean, that's basically what cloud rap (kind of) was in the early 2010s

Also, in what world is Glow On by Turnstile shoegaze? Super great album, but that record's primarily steeped in hardcore taking influence from dream pop more than anything

theres a lot of crossover these days, shoegaze is just changing, being mixed and there are other terms for the mix but idk whos actually using them, or why a distinction is even needed to begin with

theres some articles out about it, its just whats been happening this decade

id rather debate what genre new lil ugly mane is. still cant figure that out

oh boyyyy do i have a lot to say

more than flash in the pan for sure, its symbolic of a greater musical movement

shoegaze being the genre to rip will be flash in the pan. but ripping from decades prior in rock will not be

Fair enough, it's a hodgepodge of various genre clashings these days certainly. Someone like LUM's definitely an interesting case study amidst it all

exactly, genres just change and get mashed up all the time. I dont get saying theres 0 shoegaze in glow on, its just not going to sound like shoegaze 30 years ago. Most genres are mashing together right now anyways. I dont understand why we need new genre terms for stuff that is just a somewhat new take on a style

its funny I get clowned on in real life a month ago for not thinking or getting why glow on was shoe-gaze-ish at least and now dudes online clowning me for saying nah it definitely fits as at least part of the genre. thats the internet lmao

Lum is just something else I cant figure out though lately. neo-folk-emo? sounds so stupid lmao

I can’t lie, I never heard it. I just put it on and you’re both wrong. This is a Panda Bear song and then some mall punk s***, this sounds like if Weezer skated. Neither shoegaze nor hardcore to me

lmfao imma have some long talks at the bar tonight then

its an ok album far from a favorite for me. its a vibe when its the right time tho. I think the influence its had is cool tho. listening to pain of truth rn tho

HE HAS SPOKEN

a lot of it isn’t actually shoegaze but i do enjoy a lot coming out like julie

Pain of Truth is goated

my friend got us tickets for some show with them soon I think. Ive seen like 4 or 5 of the bands on their newest album so far though

Rowdy crowd always. Saw them in November and it was crazy

What album would you recommend starting with them?

lil ugly mane shoegaze era goes hard
other than that almost all good shoegaze for like 2 decades has come from asia

to see the next part of the dream (2021)

Somebody link me to some of the new emerging acts

I like these

yeah ive never heard turnstile referred to as shoegaze before entering this thread

I don't disagree with the premise of the thread but how tf is Glow On a shoegaze album

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As I said in the thread tho I had a hard time getting why everyone calls it shoegaze, but everyone I've talked to irl insists it is and says the guitar pedal use and styling of guitar riffs is the main catalyst for it. The main guy that I let influence my take literally makes shoegaze so I took it to heart, plus a multitude of people reinforced that over the last year or so, including a person I know that's toured with a handful of big names nationally

I barely listen to shoegaze, I barely like turnstiles, but it does seem online a lot of people get stuck on using sub-sub-genre terms. Idk what you'd call glow on really then, but I would never call it hardcore punk

After the Night is basically a greatest hits album but better

One of the best live albums I've ever heard