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  • Jul 8, 2021

    bro its only been like 3 years tops since metro was on everything

  • Jul 8, 2021

    Distinguished yet universally accessible sound + domineering persona + beats where you listen for the beat as much as the artist = super producer

    This is why Metro is the last super producer in hiphop (last as in most recent not final). A lot of these new cats make hot s*** and some of em even stand out, but they don’t have all three I listed together at once - it’s always one or the other. None of em have domineering personas let alone something about them that stands out.

    And a lot of these dudes beats don’t have that thing about em that would make pretty much every type of rapper wanna hop on

  • Jul 8, 2021
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    Y’all don’t wanna hear it, but the real reason is that the new gen rappers are so much better at making music now that no one gets carried by the beat anymore

    if a producer comes up with an amazing beat, rappers will now come up with melodies that compliment the beat so well that they become part of the song

    back in the day they’d let the beat carry thre song musically while they just rhyme on top of it

    so music production has now adapted to the point where they’re designed to complement rappers vocals instead of carry them

    jay z can just jump on "Give it To Me" and spit a couple 16s, but could you imagine him doing just that and nothing else on beats like these?

  • Jul 8, 2021

    Icytwat could’ve been if he didn’t fumble his own career

  • Jul 8, 2021
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    KayTeeTee

    Y’all don’t wanna hear it, but the real reason is that the new gen rappers are so much better at making music now that no one gets carried by the beat anymore

    if a producer comes up with an amazing beat, rappers will now come up with melodies that compliment the beat so well that they become part of the song

    back in the day they’d let the beat carry thre song musically while they just rhyme on top of it

    so music production has now adapted to the point where they’re designed to complement rappers vocals instead of carry them

    jay z can just jump on "Give it To Me" and spit a couple 16s, but could you imagine him doing just that and nothing else on beats like these?

    !https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DujEvJIW_9I!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ByY30tfvM!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lqrVRKlVLXM!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rPokDfHvpVo

    ghost writing and teams have been normalized too. rap songs are written like pop songs now.

  • Jul 8, 2021
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    KayTeeTee

    Y’all don’t wanna hear it, but the real reason is that the new gen rappers are so much better at making music now that no one gets carried by the beat anymore

    if a producer comes up with an amazing beat, rappers will now come up with melodies that compliment the beat so well that they become part of the song

    back in the day they’d let the beat carry thre song musically while they just rhyme on top of it

    so music production has now adapted to the point where they’re designed to complement rappers vocals instead of carry them

    jay z can just jump on "Give it To Me" and spit a couple 16s, but could you imagine him doing just that and nothing else on beats like these?

    !https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DujEvJIW_9I!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ByY30tfvM!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lqrVRKlVLXM!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rPokDfHvpVo

    This is a really good point to make in terms of hip hop, but the super producers stood out even in pop, which has always been melodic

  • Jul 8, 2021
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    BlenderBluid

    Post em

    you can peep some of them in this thread since I won the beat battle

    ktt2.com/ktt-official-beat-battle-verzuz-sign-up-planning-stage-129180

  • Jul 8, 2021
    Vega

    ghost writing and teams have been normalized too. rap songs are written like pop songs now.

    What Wayne say? They be actin like these singers now.
    Go into the studio with f***in CLIPS! AMMO!

  • Jul 8, 2021
    KayTeeTee

    Y’all don’t wanna hear it, but the real reason is that the new gen rappers are so much better at making music now that no one gets carried by the beat anymore

    if a producer comes up with an amazing beat, rappers will now come up with melodies that compliment the beat so well that they become part of the song

    back in the day they’d let the beat carry thre song musically while they just rhyme on top of it

    so music production has now adapted to the point where they’re designed to complement rappers vocals instead of carry them

    jay z can just jump on "Give it To Me" and spit a couple 16s, but could you imagine him doing just that and nothing else on beats like these?

    !https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DujEvJIW_9I!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ByY30tfvM!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lqrVRKlVLXM!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rPokDfHvpVo

    Gummo wasn't tailored to fit 6ix9ine, Pi’erre gave that beat to Trippie, and he gave it to 6ix9ine without Pi’erre knowing about it lol
    But I agree with you mostly

  • Jul 8, 2021
    eversince

    you can peep some of them in this thread since I won the beat battle

    https://ktt2.com/ktt-official-beat-battle-verzuz-sign-up-planning-stage-129180

    peeped your first round and final rounds ones 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • Jul 8, 2021
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    radiant child

    Me neither

    Hit us with the links!

  • Jul 8, 2021
    RICKY 2320

    I see your point, but Puff and Dre were appearing on all videos of the artists they produced for and they were evrywhere in media, Puff specially.

    Nah I hear that

    But the era after that was all about the blueprint Dre and Diddy popularized

    After they run that became the norm, you’d see the producer in the vids way more often in the 00s bc niggas started to brand themselves more

    Scratch Magazine dropped in the 2000s and was a result of the popularity producers gained during that era. It was pretty much dedicated to producers

  • Jul 8, 2021
    KayTeeTee

    Y’all don’t wanna hear it, but the real reason is that the new gen rappers are so much better at making music now that no one gets carried by the beat anymore

    if a producer comes up with an amazing beat, rappers will now come up with melodies that compliment the beat so well that they become part of the song

    back in the day they’d let the beat carry thre song musically while they just rhyme on top of it

    so music production has now adapted to the point where they’re designed to complement rappers vocals instead of carry them

    jay z can just jump on "Give it To Me" and spit a couple 16s, but could you imagine him doing just that and nothing else on beats like these?

    !https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DujEvJIW_9I!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ByY30tfvM!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lqrVRKlVLXM!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rPokDfHvpVo

    Lmao

  • Jul 8, 2021
    radiant child

    We’ll get another super producer era when you can hear a beat and know who produced it

    Lmfao

  • Jul 8, 2021

    Y’all love d***sucking old producers and s***ting on DAWS when it was the shift to DAWS that made hip hop the number one genre.

    To answer the question tho, who knows? In the social media age as a producer you’ll make more money and gain fame making type beats not original sounds. Everybody wanna be like everybody else so niggas looking for type beats. Back in the day different areas had WAY more differences in rapping style and subject matter. Now 50% of hip hop is about ops and sliding, aka Chicago terminology and whatever the internet has popping. That’s why it’s so hard to find unique artists nowadays the internet has caused individualism to flutter.

    You play something unique in a session niggas get scared cause they don’t know where to draw the lyrics or cadence from. Only way I see a super producer coming up is if they come up with an upcoming superstar artist with an unique style before branching out. With that being said beats today > back then as a whole.

  • Jul 8, 2021
    BlenderBluid

    Hit us with the links!

    distrokid.com/hyperfollow/snowblunt/suburban-freak

    My project with my favorite production so far

  • Jul 8, 2021

    tay keith been going nuts

  • Jul 8, 2021
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    Jack Antonoff if we being honest

  • Jul 8, 2021
    radiant child

    This is a really good point to make in terms of hip hop, but the super producers stood out even in pop, which has always been melodic

    yeah

    the pop singers will not be carried by a beat ever since it’s already so melodic

    so superproducers need to be songwriters/have songwriter teams to cross over into pop music

    only problem is that fans kinda don’t want pop stars to just churn out songs that they obviously had no hand in making themselves anymore.

    All the biggest success stories in pop have been singer/songwriters for a while now

    so pop artist have adapted so that producers/writers can help with a song, but never completely dominate (jack antonoff for example)

    even when artists like beyonce have songs like APESHIT and Formation written for them, they’ll make sure that their vision dominates, so that no one except them come across as the mastermind

    can’t get the superproducer stamp if ppl think you’re just another collaborator

  • Jul 8, 2021
    safe

    Jack Antonoff if we being honest

    he’s defo one even tho most of the people he works with doesn’t know how to use his talents

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